You're fine bro, don't let him get to ya. Thanks for sharing your videos about Flurry.
Add Moment of Vulnerability after Parry
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I'd be fine if i was Slow AF with Duel Wield Weapons if i Could swing both left and right at the same time lmao.
I debated on actually saying this where everyone could read it, but fuck it. Here's my shot, I actually Deal 7s through parry with my build with 1 specific weapon. I switch to that weapon if opponent doesn't fall for any of my normal tricks because i'm not gonna have a parry fight for 20min fuck that. With that being said It only works because of my Build it would only deal 2s and 3s for other people using the same weapon. So Parry damage still needs INCREASED. It's ridiculous what you have to do in order to achieve slight advantages in this game.
This type of comment again.... People who say this don't understand the nuances of melee combat and how even now the skill ceiling is low but we could still defeat tons of lesser melee fighters, who haven't practiced as much as we have. 2 skilled foot fighters can take on 10 foot fighters who don't know what they are doing. Alot of times me and my friend will go out and fight just us 2 vs entire armies to test ourselves, We do it in our video's all the time TheBeastMasters Guild. This video Us and Miscreants teamed up to defeat all of Old Guard and some Koto and Northern Order. BeastMasters ; Tha Mayors of Meduli - Mortal Online 2 PvP - YouTube They are all mounteds when they get on Foot they can't handle us. And IronVanGuard Crumbles to our might as well in our War.
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Is this actually Mortal Online2? I can't believe the whole community agrees on something for once. It's actually Shocking.
PvP players aren't trying to suggest to balance the game around 1v1. But it's ridiculous that players are SHITTING on the idea of 1v1, and saying "OH WELL WHO CARES ITS A GROUP BASED GAME!"
More enabling the lazy design.
But I can tell you this. If 1v1 felt good, I bet group fights would feel even better.
Parries are a big thing in group fights. Any smart player who gets low turns around and parries until he is healed and peeled. Do you think people just whack each other with no blocking / parrying until the other side is standing?
Hate to BREAK IT TO YOU GUYS BUT WHEN YOU'RE IN A GROUP FIGHT AND FIGHTING ANOTHER PLAYER YOUR LITERALLY DUELING INSIDE OF THE GROUP FIGHT!
Wow! It's like dueling has a place in group fights and in the game, but people think because you can target switch that it immediately becomes irrelevant.
More enabling the lazy design.
But I can tell you this. If 1v1 felt good, I bet group fights would feel even better.
Parries are a big thing in group fights. Any smart player who gets low turns around and parries until he is healed and peeled. Do you think people just whack each other with no blocking / parrying until the other side is standing?
Hate to BREAK IT TO YOU GUYS BUT WHEN YOU'RE IN A GROUP FIGHT AND FIGHTING ANOTHER PLAYER YOUR LITERALLY DUELING INSIDE OF THE GROUP FIGHT!
Wow! It's like dueling has a place in group fights and in the game, but people think because you can target switch that it immediately becomes irrelevant.
Nothing wrong with 1v1 being good in the game you defiantly can have good and even better GvGs if 1v1s were high skill ceiling.
Some people dont know that they are talking about and thats obvious but others are scared of not winning fights if the game becomes more skill based.
The main issue with skill base in this game is the ping restrictions on combat which means you need to do other things to increase the skill floor. But flurries were working before just fine.
Some people dont know that they are talking about and thats obvious but others are scared of not winning fights if the game becomes more skill based.
The main issue with skill base in this game is the ping restrictions on combat which means you need to do other things to increase the skill floor. But flurries were working before just fine.
Re-increasing the speed of combat isn't a smart idea, Here is an early video when they decided to "Increase" the combat speed from an oceanic player perspective.
Shortly after they've reverted back to the slower speed and eventually found a medium of speed/slow that is more suitable for high-ping players.
Shortly after they've reverted back to the slower speed and eventually found a medium of speed/slow that is more suitable for high-ping players.
Then maybe SV should make regional servers. Sorry but it's bullshit to just accommodate everyone into the game at the expense of how it plays.
This was a really long time ago. Sep 2020, before even normalization.
I'd say this is super out of context
Tried telling them for way to long again but alas brown nosers got to them like last time. Sad times.
This guy, talking about parrying. Where were your parry skills when me and Turik flawlessed your entire guild outside Vadda graveyard? You couldn't parry my hits at all. I literally hit you at least 2 times with an out-of-stamina slow swing.. in a 1v1 situation. I wasn't even feinting or hiding animations. Maybe you should improve and practice before you weigh in on combat mechanics, you're pretty much a low-mid tier fighter. The reason you think you're good is you're fighting other lower tier combatants.
You mean the 2v2 We Won and that you guys lost? I remember that too, I remember you needing a Mounted Archer to come save you guys. We got that on Video take a look.
BeastMasters ; Tha Mayors of Meduli - Mortal Online 2 PvP - YouTube We got some fresh vids of us defeating Koto with Miscreants too. Don't worry more Beast Masters Compilations are coming. Get Cucked Kiddo. Another thing you can do before thinking you can Flex on me, when you already lost is hmm idk try lasting longer then 2min against us in a 2v2. Maybe try lasting 20min against this Uli guy when he is using his auto blocker to practice with us lmao.
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It’s amazing that this post can have 6 likes despite the fact that I refuted it and it isn’t at all accurate.
The person who posted it didn’t even contest what I said lol
to be clear the game existed in a state where it was easy to parry and flurrying existed.
Little bit of ping normalization was needed thats it and combat was actually pretty close to perfect.
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Well perhaps the reason why more people liked my post is because more people experienced what i did, as opposed to what you experienced.
what you experienced were optimal conditions. Good for you, you were one of the lucky ones. Sadly, a lot more people experienced the opposite of that. They experienced heavy de-sync. And with it, the complete inability to block or parry anything that could be spammed super fast. Which in turn pushed everyone to use fast weapons in order to abuse prediction.
further more, the fact that SV changed things also reflects the fact that more people were unhappy with the de-sync, as opposed to happy with how it worked. Otherwise they wouldnt have changed anything.
and its still there by the way. Just a mild version, in large part due to the fact that people cant spam super fast anymore.
the average melee experience has definitely improved, even if at the cost of the elite experience which suffers now due to the slowing of it all.
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My question for you is.
Since it is a fact that people complained about parrying being too easy since the inception of MO 2.
Is it possible for something to be too easy and impossible simultaneously?
I'll concede that the lack of ping normalization doesn't bode well for my argument, but you can fix a rat infestation without hitting them with a few tonnes of dynamite.
if we all had the same connection, same ping, same rigs, same everything then yes, you could make parrying a lot harder to do( smaller time window/smaller cone/more timing dependent). that would raise the skill level required to take no damage. This would favour an aggressive play style, and turtling would be only for the super skilled.
however, since its practicly impossible withthe 1 server thing, you have to do the best you can taking in consideration that there will probably be 100+ ping difference on average between combatants, and the biggest problem with high ping disparity is blocking, not hitting. Its not skill if somebody hits you before you can even see him move. Its bull shit.
Now, your argument is that they favoured defensive play style over offensive style. But i disagree, they tried to fix the problem, which was having enough time to even see an attack. Hitting wasn't a big problem.
my argument is that is better to have the problem that is easy to parry, than not being able to at all.
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My question and I don’t feel you addressed it at all.
Is that since early alpha it has been considered too easy to parry and it has since been buffed countless times. How can it be impossible as of jul 13 2020
and yet extremely possible as seen here.
Patwins considered by most here to be very good
Actually as you can tell here the attacks were way slower. What they actually did was slow down the skill cap. Turn caps, parry delays, movement speed, no flurrying, stam penalties.
Right now the charge speeds are actually blazing fast, because that's what suits some people in their echo chambers.
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Yeh, it sucks. I was really hoping to get a feel of 2010 - 2013ish MO1 combat mechanics in MO2. With some of the technical improvements of mid - late MO1, just with more polish & stability. But what we have is an even more extreme jump in combat design, compared to what we experienced from early MO1 to late MO1.