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I played EVE for 12 years. I was in Pandemic Legion. I reached every milestone the game had to offer including super capital ships. The game was at a consensual level for most players(not all players). With rare exception to wormhole conflicts. This is my objective analysis after 12 years...

That's fine I respect your opinion and Henrik will take into consideration who he should appeal to. To the players who are happy if the game dies, or limps along with a low population or more players that want to see it thrive and live on. So far it has been the former but I do see change. Just...

It's great that 1v1s can be ended in under 10 minutes now but 1v1s in the real game outside of pre-agreed duels is extremely rare. The blink charge actually hurts solo players. Unironically the lack of solo competitive content was one of the three major factors I listed as holding the game back...

Who's upset? I'm just telling you that thievery won't save the game and it's in a state of "needing saving". It's precipitously close to a negative feedback loop considering it relies on players for content. Once the player count in these games gets low enough it spirals out of control until 0...

That was my argument. Thievery only appeals to vets. This game cannot survive on its current population of vets. Even if every single person playing right now was a veteran and loving thieving and 100% would sub for it, it's not enough IMO. The game needs to convince people who aren't vets to...

You're being extremely disingenuous to imply people weren't aware of MO1. They were hyper aware of it. MO1 was a running joke in the PVP MMO's that people were actually playing; DAOC, Darkfall/UW, RS, EVE, RF, Warhammer. How do I know? Those were the MMO's I was playing circa MO1 era and...

For melee: They could keep their basic attack system with parrys in place but add in abilities that are aimed that primarily deal small radius friendly fire AOE damage that does not hit the caster. The ability itself doesn't have to be a targeted AOE but the damage result if it connects should...

No one blamed MO1's player count on thievery. I only said that we can't expect MO2 player counts to rise (that much) if we add thievery, given that MO1 had thievery and no one outside of your 500 man community cared. MO1 suffered from the same problems that MO2 suffers from. The combat was ass...

I love this argument everytime someone raises it. They jump straight to the nuclear tab target, world is falling. There are maybe 2 relevant tab target games? I don't know why you guys have such a hard on for them. Most survival games/mmo's fall into aimed skillshot abilities with a heavy...

If it doesn't change the game will be locked into a state of mediocrity until its eventual demise. It enjoys a passable population right now because there are so few options in the MMO genre, even with those limited options the game can not even hit 2k concurrent. Imagine going to a beauty...

Yea I already said it would be a powerful end-game tool for solo players to "win" on page 1 of this thread and while it sounds good in theory it won't translate into more then a handful of players who exclusively thieve or have alts to thieve. Unless they decide to make it profession points and...

Lol I said that no less then twice earlier in the thread; Combat overhaul and size restricted dungeons. We can't hold any players from survivals or other MMO's because: 1: the combat in Mortal is ass. Both the mage and melee combat is ass. Outside of this community it is hated, it's the chief...

Its a good write up but if any of this were true then MO1 wouldn't of had 500 players. There would functionally be little difference between thievery MO1 vs MO2. If they did implement thievery in the near future (they wont) my argument would be vindicated in that that outside of the MO1...

Doesn't answer the question I asked at all. You and others that prioritize thievery will say that its "very important" to the health of the game. I asked that if it is so important then why didn't MO1 have more players, considering that it had thievery. How will MO2 thievery add to the game in...

Why didn't thievery attract a large playerbase before then? It already existed with lackluster results.

Do you believe thievery would be more meaningful to the overall population then an update that adds combat abilities and full speed casting or an instanced dungeon system that has group size restrictions? I'm looking for dev time spent on meaningful change. We tried thievery before. It wasn't...

Tell me how thievery will increase new player retention? It will be an end-game loop solution when the problems Mortal faces now are early game dominant. When I watch youtube reviews of average players, trying and then subsequently quitting the game not once have I seen a mention of thievery...

Just don't see the value in thievery. If it was a polished system ready to go already then sure i'd say throw it in. But the reality of the situation is it will eat 6months of dev time. I also don't know how to balance something like thievery. I assume it will be a primary point class so it will...

Solo/small group friendly mechanics in other sandbox full loot MMOs: Rust: Extremely Low TTK, High movement EVE: Stargates, cloaks, dscan, local OSRS: Singles Albion: Mount cooldown, hellgates, corrupteds, mists, invis Mortal 2: None and a Extremely high TTK (10minutes+ in some cases) 1v1...

I understand that you like it but realize that you are in a very very small minority. Even if the approval rate of the combat in Mortal was at 100% of the current population(and it's not, this thread is also a poll) it would still be an extremely small minority of the MMO/Survival demographic...