Pets Have Ruined the Game Completely

[Sally]

Not to poke fun but I seen you fight and again not to be rude you still have a TON to learn about pvp and how it works. Yes pets are strong and there are builds to deal with them and could use some balancing. But as you should know magic is just as strong. Try when you die to learn from your experiences and adjust your build accordingly for the playstyle you want to achieve. I would find a competent guild and pick their brains and find a place in the world of Mortal. Mortal is a hardcore game and you will die a TON before you die LESS is up to you to choose how to fight in the world of mortal and conquer your enemies.

LOL look at this passive aggression from someone who lost to me in pvp.

I'm one of the most hated players in the game, and the reason is because i am good at outsmarting brainless guilds who try to win by numbers; and they can't stand it. They go feral because they lose to one person on a foot archer.

Oh, and I'm the best archer on the game, beyond all else.

I've beaten entire guilds on my own with a piece of wood and some string; so sit down and know your place.

This idiot probably thinks i don't know all the easy builds, and doesn't understand i purposely use more limited builds to challenge myself, because it'd be too easy for me otherwise; and i still win even despite that. Not everyone is so shameless that they can feel good about winning with all the easiest stuff.

I'm better than you, so stop this little passive aggressive flex. Oh, and just stop being passive aggressive generally, just be direct like me. You're scared people will see you as a bad person for speaking what you really think directly, so you're really just a coward, trying to have your cake and eat it; scared people will not like you but also seething so bad you need to try and insult me. It is such weak behavior.

You probably used youtube to come up with your build, like 99% of the people who roleplay being good at the game, then delude yourself into thinking you're knowledgable because you cheese someone with the easy stuff LOL. The worst players play on the easiest difficulty. That is obvious. We all know the easy builds, we all have youtube.. Hello?? Some just aren't shameless enough to use them.

To the real players, it is about HOW you win, not just winning. Some people just set the bar low for themselves, reward themselves for winning on easymode. Truly pathetic. If you think all that matters is just winning, you're one of these people. If winning is all that matters, then there is no shame in playing on easymode, right? The perfect cope mentality.

You are just naive if you think i have something to learn from someone nobody has even heard of. You don't become famous in the game for being bad at it. No.. People are bothered by me because i excel at what i do; which is why you're here with your sad little passive aggressive post and i'm here laughing at you.

You know me, and i don't know you. That says it all.

Oh, and before you say "I never lost to you blah blah!!"; why are you so mad then? And don't be so stupid as to try and suggest you're just giving advice. Most obvious passive aggression ever; you're seething. Just take the L and stop trying to take your revenge on the forums, it is so petty. You'll lose here too anyway, so save yourself some time and effort.

So your argument is : magic is just as broken as pets?

A good pet is a homing missile tank with massive range, and will completely ruin and outrun anything without armor on with one button. Meanwhile, the person who fired the pet is free to act however they choose. They can even use that broken magic you were talking about.

If a tamer was just a pet, it'd be fine. Where a tamer becomes broken is when it is hybridized. It is when you can have a massive tank inescapable pet AND be your own class on top of that too. That is the problem.

You're the one not understanding specifically what is broken about pets. The good ones don't take enough investment to get, and so you can be some other broken build with an armored bear.

A pet can equal a whole player, currently. Meaning those that use them can be two in one. They can be the mage you say is broken AND a tamer with an armored bear.

You're just one of these players who used youtube, found a broken easy build, and now you defend it because it has allowed someone as bad as you to have an easy time. I literally addressed people like you in the original post. You don't want to lose your easymode, and so you will selfishly spoil the game to preserve it.

If a tamer was JUST a tamer, that'd be fine. But they're not, are they? So either you make it a bigger investment, or you nerf pets. Take your pick.

Again, very obvious evidence that correlates to pets being broken, aside from it just being evident on the face of it : nearly everyone is running around with pet bears in armor now. Ah yes, humans tend to gravitate towards what is bad and difficult in games.. Get real please.

Lastly, if you adjust your build to every failure, you're not adapting your brain. Sometimes it isn't the build. I get it, you want to excuse your failings, so you blame the build, change it. You're not bad! Your build just sucks, right? It can't be you.

The sheer cope.

You can adapt your build, or you can adapt how you play. If you adapt your build, and give up on it, blame that for your failings, you're robbing yourself of personal growth as a player. People said the foot archer wasn't a build, but here we are, with guilds furious at me because i can bully them from draw distance. Why is that the case? Because i didn't blame the build.

Now yes, changing your build MAY require learning how to use whatever you've added, but it is nowhere near comparable to keeping the limitations of your build and adapting only via your mind. It takes real creativity, mastery and understanding to overcome the weaknesses of a build that has very obvious limitations in certain areas; you know.. Skill?

If we all blame the build, where do we all end up? With the same easymode build as everyone else (which is currently pet based). The same boring path of least resistance build that takes no real brainpower to use. Compensating for your failure as a player with a broken build; then telling yourself that you're now a good player; when the sad reality is you just turned the easy difficulty on without really growing as a player at all. Just blending in with the mass of other players who can't find fault with themselves, and so can't grow.

 

[Emdash]

LOL look at this passive aggression from someone who lost to me in pvp.

I'm one of the most hated players in the game, and the reason is because i am good at outsmarting brainless guilds who try to win by numbers; and they can't stand it. They go feral because they lose to one person on a foot archer.

Oh, and I'm the best archer on the game, beyond all else.

I've beaten entire guilds on my own with a piece of wood and some string; so sit down and know your place.

This idiot probably thinks i don't know all the easy builds, and doesn't understand i purposely use more limited builds to challenge myself, because it'd be too easy for me otherwise; and i still win even despite that. Not everyone is so shameless that they can feel good about winning with all the easiest stuff.

I'm better than you, so stop this little passive aggressive flex. Oh, and just stop being passive aggressive generally, just be direct like me. You're scared people will see you as a bad person for speaking what you really think directly, so you're really just a coward, trying to have your cake and eat it; scared people will not like you but also seething so bad you need to try and insult me. It is such weak behavior.

You probably used youtube to come up with your build, like 99% of the people who roleplay being good at the game, then delude yourself into thinking you're knowledgable because you cheese someone with the easy stuff LOL. The worst players play on the easiest difficulty. That is obvious. We all know the easy builds, we all have youtube.. Hello?? Some just aren't shameless enough to use them.

To the real players, it is about HOW you win, not just winning. Some people just set the bar low for themselves, reward themselves for winning on easymode. Truly pathetic. If you think all that matters is just winning, you're one of these people. If winning is all that matters, then there is no shame in playing on easymode, right? The perfect cope mentality.

You are just naive if you think i have something to learn from someone nobody has even heard of. You don't become famous in the game for being bad at it. No.. People are bothered by me because i excel at what i do; which is why you're here with your sad little passive aggressive post and i'm here laughing at you.

You know me, and i don't know you. That says it all.

Oh, and before you say "I never lost to you blah blah!!"; why are you so mad then? And don't be so stupid as to try and suggest you're just giving advice. Most obvious passive aggression ever; you're seething. Just take the L and stop trying to take your revenge on the forums, it is so petty. You'll lose here too anyway, so save yourself some time and effort.

So your argument is : magic is just as broken as pets?

A good pet is a homing missile tank with massive range, and will completely ruin and outrun anything without armor on with one button. Meanwhile, the person who fired the pet is free to act however they choose. They can even use that broken magic you were talking about.

If a tamer was just a pet, it'd be fine. Where a tamer becomes broken is when it is hybridized. It is when you can have a massive tank inescapable pet AND be your own class on top of that too. That is the problem.

You're the one not understanding specifically what is broken about pets. The good ones don't take enough investment to get, and so you can be some other broken build with an armored bear.

A pet can equal a whole player, currently. Meaning those that use them can be two in one. They can be the mage you say is broken AND a tamer with an armored bear.

You're just one of these players who used youtube, found a broken easy build, and now you defend it because it has allowed someone as bad as you to have an easy time. I literally addressed people like you in the original post. You don't want to lose your easymode, and so you will selfishly spoil the game to preserve it.

If a tamer was JUST a tamer, that'd be fine. But they're not, are they? So either you make it a bigger investment, or you nerf pets. Take your pick.

Again, very obvious evidence that correlates to pets being broken, aside from it just being evident on the face of it : nearly everyone is running around with pet bears in armor now. Ah yes, humans tend to gravitate towards what is bad and difficult in games.. Get real please.

Lastly, if you adjust your build to every failure, you're not adapting your brain. Sometimes it isn't the build. I get it, you want to excuse your failings, so you blame the build, change it. You're not bad! Your build just sucks, right? It can't be you.

The sheer cope.

You can adapt your build, or you can adapt how you play. If you adapt your build, and give up on it, blame that for your failings, you're robbing yourself of personal growth as a player. People said the foot archer wasn't a build, but here we are, with guilds furious at me because i can bully them from draw distance. Why is that the case? Because i didn't blame the build.

Now yes, changing your build MAY require learning how to use whatever you've added, but it is nowhere near comparable to keeping the limitations of your build and adapting only via your mind. It takes real creativity, mastery and understanding to overcome the weaknesses of a build that has very obvious limitations in certain areas; you know.. Skill?

If we all blame the build, where do we all end up? With the same easymode build as everyone else (which is currently pet based). The same boring path of least resistance build that takes no real brainpower to use. Compensating for your failure as a player with a broken build; then telling yourself that you're now a good player; when the sad reality is you just turned the easy difficulty on without really growing as a player at all. Just blending in with the mass of other players who can't find fault with themselves, and so can't grow.

on another forum I post on, people would quote a post like this with a simple response: meltdown.


haha. Lemme read it. Classic shit, tho. This might be longer than any post I've ever made.

hahax2 after reading. Love it. WWF shit. Call albanjo.

 

[Sally]

on another forum I post on, people would quote a post like this with a simple response: meltdown.


haha. Lemme read it. Classic shit, tho. This might be longer than any post I've ever made.

hahax2 after reading. Love it. WWF shit. Call albanjo.

It is the curse of extreme honesty, and there was a lot of stupidity to unpack in that small comment; and i felt it was my duty to correct it.

 

[Emdash]

It is the curse of extreme honesty, and there was a lot of stupidity to unpack in that small comment; and i felt it was my duty to correct it.

I actually get it, but it's just funny to see. That was the first time I laughed like that all day. I'm glad you see I'm not attacking you or whatever. It was legit like yooo. haha. Same w/ the meltdown thing, it's kind of an inside joke.

 

[Debussy]

Nothing in this game is realistic so I don’t know why pets should be any different.

All forms of combat suck and have no skill or depth. Honestly wish Henrik would crowd fund to get the staff he needs to build out a great combat system with depth. Use real world examples like the book from Fiore dei Liberi: Master of the Sword.

Make a truly unique combat experience. But instead we have a system that is one dimensional. Would love to contribute to an endeavor that would eventually give us a truly unique medieval combat experience.

 

[MolagAmur]

Nothing in this game is realistic so I don’t know why pets should be any different.

All forms of combat suck and have no skill or depth. Honestly wish Henrik would crowd fund to get the staff he needs to build out a great combat system with depth. Use real world examples like the book from Fiore dei Liberi: Master of the Sword.

Make a truly unique combat experience. But instead we have a system that is one dimensional. Would love to contribute to an endeavor that would eventually give us a truly unique medieval combat experience.

You have quite a few people who say MO2 combat is the most skillful combat of any game.

I think its a dumpstefire and is a big reason I quit. Its worse than MO1. Its just plain bad. Cranking the DPI to spin to hide your swings, stretching your rez to gain an advantage, 360 degree blocking (yes you can literally block a spear that hits the middle of your back).

I fully understand WHY people spin. Its a "skillful" part about the melee combat that is necessary to land swings in a 1v1 but that's because of a shitty design. I also understand 1v1s are a small part of the game, but they do happen...especially when you're fighting outnumbered. Its a big issue and I couldn't tell you how many people who see it just laugh at it.

SV could never figure it out though. We had a combat alpha that created this. Then they tried turn caps and all this other stuff and eventually just gave up.

 

[Emdash]

You have quite a few people who say MO2 combat is the most skillful combat of any game.

I think its a dumpstefire and is a big reason I quit. Its worse than MO1. Its just plain bad. Cranking the DPI to spin to hide your swings, stretching your rez to gain an advantage, 360 degree blocking (yes you can literally block a spear that hits the middle of your back).

I fully understand WHY people spin. Its a "skillful" part about the melee combat that is necessary to land swings in a 1v1 but that's because of a shitty design. I also understand 1v1s are a small part of the game, but they do happen...especially when you're fighting outnumbered. Its a big issue and I couldn't tell you how many people who see it just laugh at it.

SV could never figure it out though. We had a combat alpha that created this. Then they tried turn caps and all this other stuff and eventually just gave up.

it's wild shit. It's something, you know? Like:

That's requiring something haha.

I just don't see why people have to be able to parry so much. I tried to explain this a couple years ago on YT and even drew a diagram, but the problem I see is that no matter what happens it's still coming down to two players, close together, one attacking and one blocking. Rinse and repeat. No matter what level of complexity you get outside of that, it is lost as the two players approach each other, one doing a directional attack and one doing a directional block.

Like yo, if you took parry out of the game and made it so that when your body collides with theirs, they get knocked back a little, the amount of skill people could use would go through the roof, and it wouldn't be jiggling your mouse around, but it would be actual movement. That's just one example of something that would make the game more skill based, and that's without even adding in a block / counter system. It's just like 'step one' that would make it way deeper.

But really, when I was thinking about coming back to the game, I was like y'know whatever I'm not gonna sell out completely to how people hide swings, but I'll do it my own way. I'll find my way to get it in. I'll 'practice' that cheezy shit. It was just all the other stuff like PETS (ahem thread ahem,) crazy magic that is gatekept, necromancers riding on dogs that's just like... nvm. heh. That's my 2c. But I would like combat to be improved.

I do think even though the screens will never match up that you should get an advantage for attacking people from behind and they shouldn't be able to block it. That alone, AGAIN, would massively change the game.

 

[azezal]

LOL look at this passive aggression from someone who lost to me in pvp.

I'm one of the most hated players in the game, and the reason is because i am good at outsmarting brainless guilds who try to win by numbers; and they can't stand it. They go feral because they lose to one person on a foot archer.

Oh, and I'm the best archer on the game, beyond all else.

I've beaten entire guilds on my own with a piece of wood and some string; so sit down and know your place.

This idiot probably thinks i don't know all the easy builds, and doesn't understand i purposely use more limited builds to challenge myself, because it'd be too easy for me otherwise; and i still win even despite that. Not everyone is so shameless that they can feel good about winning with all the easiest stuff.

I'm better than you, so stop this little passive aggressive flex. Oh, and just stop being passive aggressive generally, just be direct like me. You're scared people will see you as a bad person for speaking what you really think directly, so you're really just a coward, trying to have your cake and eat it; scared people will not like you but also seething so bad you need to try and insult me. It is such weak behavior.

You probably used youtube to come up with your build, like 99% of the people who roleplay being good at the game, then delude yourself into thinking you're knowledgable because you cheese someone with the easy stuff LOL. The worst players play on the easiest difficulty. That is obvious. We all know the easy builds, we all have youtube.. Hello?? Some just aren't shameless enough to use them.

To the real players, it is about HOW you win, not just winning. Some people just set the bar low for themselves, reward themselves for winning on easymode. Truly pathetic. If you think all that matters is just winning, you're one of these people. If winning is all that matters, then there is no shame in playing on easymode, right? The perfect cope mentality.

You are just naive if you think i have something to learn from someone nobody has even heard of. You don't become famous in the game for being bad at it. No.. People are bothered by me because i excel at what i do; which is why you're here with your sad little passive aggressive post and i'm here laughing at you.

You know me, and i don't know you. That says it all.

Oh, and before you say "I never lost to you blah blah!!"; why are you so mad then? And don't be so stupid as to try and suggest you're just giving advice. Most obvious passive aggression ever; you're seething. Just take the L and stop trying to take your revenge on the forums, it is so petty. You'll lose here too anyway, so save yourself some time and effort.

So your argument is : magic is just as broken as pets?

A good pet is a homing missile tank with massive range, and will completely ruin and outrun anything without armor on with one button. Meanwhile, the person who fired the pet is free to act however they choose. They can even use that broken magic you were talking about.

If a tamer was just a pet, it'd be fine. Where a tamer becomes broken is when it is hybridized. It is when you can have a massive tank inescapable pet AND be your own class on top of that too. That is the problem.

You're the one not understanding specifically what is broken about pets. The good ones don't take enough investment to get, and so you can be some other broken build with an armored bear.

A pet can equal a whole player, currently. Meaning those that use them can be two in one. They can be the mage you say is broken AND a tamer with an armored bear.

You're just one of these players who used youtube, found a broken easy build, and now you defend it because it has allowed someone as bad as you to have an easy time. I literally addressed people like you in the original post. You don't want to lose your easymode, and so you will selfishly spoil the game to preserve it.

If a tamer was JUST a tamer, that'd be fine. But they're not, are they? So either you make it a bigger investment, or you nerf pets. Take your pick.

Again, very obvious evidence that correlates to pets being broken, aside from it just being evident on the face of it : nearly everyone is running around with pet bears in armor now. Ah yes, humans tend to gravitate towards what is bad and difficult in games.. Get real please.

Lastly, if you adjust your build to every failure, you're not adapting your brain. Sometimes it isn't the build. I get it, you want to excuse your failings, so you blame the build, change it. You're not bad! Your build just sucks, right? It can't be you.

The sheer cope.

You can adapt your build, or you can adapt how you play. If you adapt your build, and give up on it, blame that for your failings, you're robbing yourself of personal growth as a player. People said the foot archer wasn't a build, but here we are, with guilds furious at me because i can bully them from draw distance. Why is that the case? Because i didn't blame the build.

Now yes, changing your build MAY require learning how to use whatever you've added, but it is nowhere near comparable to keeping the limitations of your build and adapting only via your mind. It takes real creativity, mastery and understanding to overcome the weaknesses of a build that has very obvious limitations in certain areas; you know.. Skill?

If we all blame the build, where do we all end up? With the same easymode build as everyone else (which is currently pet based). The same boring path of least resistance build that takes no real brainpower to use. Compensating for your failure as a player with a broken build; then telling yourself that you're now a good player; when the sad reality is you just turned the easy difficulty on without really growing as a player at all. Just blending in with the mass of other players who can't find fault with themselves, and so can't grow.

Most just remember sally as the goblin who used to sit on the rocks above Meduli Graveyard sniping horses of noobs who got too close. I also remember the tantrums, like when a mage killed Sally in the water near Meduli ships. He was accused of speed hacking, since Sally thought that having maxed swimming skills would make them escape each time in the water.

There are some good archers out there but they are all mounted. Being a foot archer, unless you have pets is like being a pacifist and complaining that non pacifist builds are too strong. Even then arcane archer tamer/ritualists tend to be mounted builds.

I think rtualism is more broken rather than taming. It only costs 200 points. The fact that a ritualist can't take their pets into town, is almost an admission that it's OP but its inconvenient. In a game where so many RMT, inconvenience is not really an issue.

 

[Emdash]

Most just remember sally as the goblin who used to sit on the rocks above Meduli Graveyard sniping horses of noobs who got too close. I also remember the tantrums, like when a mage killed Sally in the water near Meduli ships. He was accused of speed hacking, since Sally thought that having maxed swimming skills would make them escape each time in the water.

There are some good archers out there but they are all mounted. Being a foot archer, unless you have pets is like being a pacifist and complaining that non pacifist builds are too strong. Even then arcane archer tamer/ritualists tend to be mounted builds.

I think rtualism is more broken rather than taming. It only costs 200 points. The fact that a ritualist can't take their pets into town, is almost an admission that it's OP but its inconvenient. In a game where so many RMT, inconvenience is not really an issue.

I dunno who Sally is in terms of in game name. Max swimming really was nuts when naiad worked. Not really sure why they nerfed it.

Foot archery is different than MA, though, on so many levels. Obviously a foot archer would hate pets as much as anyone because that is their hardest counter.

I wanna see some vids of good MAs. Or good vids of Sally. I love watching people get their bow on. Most of the vids of MA I've seen have good shots, but they aren't moving their horse to dodge or using terrain etc.

They're also using crosshair aim. COWARDS.

 

[Sally]

Most just remember sally as the goblin who used to sit on the rocks above Meduli Graveyard sniping horses of noobs who got too close. I also remember the tantrums, like when a mage killed Sally in the water near Meduli ships. He was accused of speed hacking, since Sally thought that having maxed swimming skills would make them escape each time in the water.

There are some good archers out there but they are all mounted. Being a foot archer, unless you have pets is like being a pacifist and complaining that non pacifist builds are too strong. Even then arcane archer tamer/ritualists tend to be mounted builds.

I think rtualism is more broken rather than taming. It only costs 200 points. The fact that a ritualist can't take their pets into town, is almost an admission that it's OP but its inconvenient. In a game where so many RMT, inconvenience is not really an issue.

Azezal, I had swimming maxed out with no inventory or items on, and someone caught up to me when i have max speed possible on the game.

He was speed hacking. End of story. You can't catch someone who has the max speed in water who has every swimming stat maxed out and max speed on the game.

Also, mounted archery is countered by foot archery, because it is harder to hit a horse on foot than a person on foot from a horse.

Foot archery also does one thing better than everything else : it can hit at the longest range, all the way to draw distance. So it has two functions as it is currently. Either you're shooting people at a really long range, or you're shooting mounted archer horses.

Also, the best archers aren't mounted archers, although i am also a mounted archer; i mostly play on foot. Nobody plays foot archer because it is too difficult due to how badly designed it is.

Mounted archers don't even really use range half the time, they ride up close as they can get to try and hit their target. That isn't real archery.

 

[fartbox]

You have quite a few people who say MO2 combat is the most skillful combat of any game.

I think its a dumpstefire and is a big reason I quit. Its worse than MO1. Its just plain bad. Cranking the DPI to spin to hide your swings, stretching your rez to gain an advantage, 360 degree blocking (yes you can literally block a spear that hits the middle of your back).

I fully understand WHY people spin. Its a "skillful" part about the melee combat that is necessary to land swings in a 1v1 but that's because of a shitty design. I also understand 1v1s are a small part of the game, but they do happen...especially when you're fighting outnumbered. Its a big issue and I couldn't tell you how many people who see it just laugh at it.

SV could never figure it out though. We had a combat alpha that created this. Then they tried turn caps and all this other stuff and eventually just gave up.

Skill cap can be defined and measured. Just like anything else in this world. It’s actions per minute(APM). MO2 has a high skill cap for a MMO but not the highest; that title belongs to OSRS believe it not.

As far as pets since the team seems to love pet content, adding new pets, armors, cosmetics and such just give pets to everyone. Make beast mastery a 200 point tree and keep ritualism as the upgraded pets build.

 

[Emdash]

Skill cap can be defined and measured. Just like anything else in this world. It’s actions per minute(APM). MO2 has a high skill cap for a MMO but not the highest; that title belongs to OSRS believe it not.

As far as pets since the team seems to love pet content, adding new pets, armors, cosmetics and such just give pets to everyone. Make beast mastery a 200 point tree and keep ritualism as the upgraded pets build.

I think they should get rid of taming combat pets.

Make it so some animals can be your pet. There is no leveling, no bullshit, just a base pet. You go back, your pet is dead, you pay or something to get another one.

It SEEMS cool to be able to grab a pet anywhere, but it's kinda the beginning of imbalance because they have to worry about EVERY fucking pet and possible multiples of them.

I agree with being able to have a pet though. It could even be like a summon that you can do every 30 minutes or an hour or something. Having a build with a pet companion is cool, to me. I just think they need some baseline in order to start balancing. One of the biggest obstacles to pet balance is how different they are, how differently they behave, etc. Then taking into account low lvl vs 125. It's a shit show.

 

[Jackdstripper]

There is no need to remove pets altogether, they just have to be adjusted. The biggest issue is how strong some pets are with almost no points invested in them. You can be a full mage or a full footie build, and have a level 100 taur dog wearing steel. Only 100 skill points needed in CC.

That is way too broken. If the pet is very strong, then the owner needs to be weak. Only a full Beast Mastery build should be able to have very strong pets. You should have to invest 300 or 400 points minimum to have such strong fighting pet.

Im fine with pets having armor so they are tankier, but the auto attacks need to be turned way down if you arent a full Beast Mastery build.

 

[MolagAmur]

There is no need to remove pets altogether, they just have to be adjusted. The biggest issue is how strong some pets are with almost no points invested in them. You can be a full mage or a full footie build, and have a level 100 taur dog wearing steel. Only 100 skill points needed in CC.

That is way too broken. If the pet is very strong, then the owner needs to be weak. Only a full Beast Mastery build should be able to have very strong pets. You should have to invest 300 or 400 points minimum to have such strong fighting pet.

Im fine with pets having armor so they are tankier, but the auto attacks need to be turned way down if you arent a full Beast Mastery build.

I dont think really strong pets should exist regardless of how many points you invest, gold you spend, or time you invest. Combat pets have always been bad for the game. Nobody has EVER been in a fight against a pet, and thought afterwards "damn that was good fight" or "that was fun".

 

[Jackdstripper]

I dont think really strong pets should exist regardless of how many points you invest, gold you spend, or time you invest. Combat pets have always been bad for the game. Nobody has EVER been in a fight against a pet, and thought afterwards "damn that was good fight" or "that was fun".

Its fine to have different playstyles. Having only warriors and mages makes for a bland selection of classes. Pets are here to stay, so make them a bit more balanced. Its fine to have a build that lets you use strong pets, but it has to come with drawbacks.

 

[Emdash]

There is no need to remove pets altogether,

I dunno if you only read the first line, but my point was that they should have a default pet that is outside of the tame and level system. I know people really enjoy the raising sim, and maybe there could be some kind of a raising sim that is task oriented and offers rewards for taming wild pets and trading them in.

In Guild Wars 1, ( I know different game) you could get a pet, but it was a standard pet. There were different types with different strengths, but there was nothing like different levels and multiple pets at the same time. If there was just a 'summon pet' thing it would be way more balanced.

However, taming and raising pets is one of the realistic things about the game. There are so many other things that they are nubifying. I can see how people enjoy getting a pet and raising it, but most people complain about how long it takes.

If you just go out and grab 2-3 baby terror birds, you become kind of a problem instantly haha. What is the investment, a few arrows? And now there are gonna be extra skill points on top of trinkets so everyone is gonna be mounted and on pets, bet. (Edit: on pets meaning using them, but also probably riding them.)