The main problem with this is that in a game you can respawn an infinite amount of time and be free from most consequences
Add forced player looting
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The main problem with this is that in a game you can respawn an infinite amount of time and be free from most consequences
You know in game development you have to really think through the difference between what you want to happen and what will actually happen. What you want to happen is players that would otherwise kill you will now just take your loot and leave. What will actually happen is players will just hang up outside of towns and bop anyone they see and then steal their items with 0 consequences. Just like you don't want to add mechanics that encourage zerging you don't want to encourage rpking unless you want to kill your game really fast. And I've played enough pvp MMOs to know that the amount of people that actually stick around games where rpking is rampant is very, very little. They talk a big game about how much they love it. But once every casual player quits they find a new game to ruin
People already are killing people outside of town for no reason other than to kill people. It's clear the system doesn't work for a multitude of reasons.
What about the consequences of losing in PvP. Why are the consequences one way?
From actual practice which is already occurring people just kill you. Ive killed a lot of people and didnt even look in their pockets if they have kallardian fullgrain on. You dont seem to know what happens outside of towns.
The people here are telling you exactly what already happens and its just killing people to kill people because they are already negative.
They aren't going to let you forcefully gain everything you would from killing a player, but with no penalty.
Like I said Id rather get killed and have a fight than someone just sneaking up on me and stealing all my items and running. Being left in the middle of a forest with no items might as well be dead. And the idea that someone would spare your horse, like yeah right, idk what world you're living in where that happens
So your solution is to make it even worse? I don't care because I know SV isn't dumb enough to implement this stupid idea
My vote was for mechanic to allow player to surrender and let attacker inspect player and loot what he likes without killing him, rather than right now having to take player's word that he will drop all he has i.e. simply an alternative to kill and loot. Sure the attacker gets away withour rep loss, but so does the person attacked get to run away without re-spawning. I wasn't voting for anything that FORCES player to be robbed.
Henrik said this in 1ce's stream recently but you're right they need to make it obvious so you can tell it's not them trying to figure it out it's them tryign to delete or something. Although damage makes it so they can't delete for a bit which helps.
Definitely interesting—If it’s up to the player to do that or not and players can choose not to, then it's not forced player looting so much as allowing someone to open up their inventory for other people to take things. Which is fine, some people might, others might not. More streamlined alternative than /droploot.
See this would be fine. Then you can smack them and keep them in combat while they open their inventory. I take their pants and their coins, they get to live. Easy. If they don't want to, then they will die and I will take their stuff anyway.
I just don't see why people should be able to mass rob people for their loot an go unpunished for it though. It would just encourage mass griefing and robbing because what stopping you from second guessing your actions? As I see it if someone wants my stuff bad enough than they can just kill me an accept the standing hit. I see zero reason to encourage mass theft with zero penalty for doing to it. Like why am I suppose to just give someone gold or resources every time I walk by them in the world because they say so, nah if you want it than accept the standing lose punishment an just kill me for it.
Do any of u mfers watch the 6hr stream? Henrik said they are going to add this, and even a way to restrain people.
I mean that's fine, if you won't comply we'll just mercy you until you hit the suicide button. I believe I've stated before that this isn't for people like you, it's for people that would really like to not lose their horse over nothing.
I believe this should be in the game, It makes sense. and if anyone that says it is dumb is simple minded and probably a sissy.
If they rob me I should be allowed to attack & kill them an go unpunished for it, if they kill me when I do I should be allowed to report them for killing me. If they want to rob me I don't see why I should just let them an the game should go "ok you got robbed but they didn't kill you so no punishment for them, an your not allowed to retaliate". It just defeats the whole point of the standing system.
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