THREAD SUMMARY
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So as is well known in the community at this point there are two Zeals. Putzin's Zeal and a Zeal lead by Godkin which played Mortal Online 1. Putzin's Zeal’s name is derived from the fact he leads a gaming community known as Zealots. This is a name the community has held for years before he played MO and has nothing to do with Mortal Online. The other Zeal is of course the Zeal that came from Mortal Online 1. At the time of choosing our tag, Putzin was unaware they were planning to play MO2.
However, the story is presented by the other Zeal is that we stole their name with the malicious intent to pass ourselves off as them and hijack their roleplay. I have spoken with a representative of Godkin’s Zeal and heard his side of the story on this matter:
I’d like to address both points. First, the idea that Putzin stole the name looking to cash in on Zeal’s rep. I cannot confirm the existence of his Zealot community in his time before MO1 but I can confirm he did not at any point try to convince to any of us that his Zeal is the same Zeal as MO1. In fact, he was very clear on the point that it was not. Putzin never even joined Zeal, he simply spent some time sparring with them but left it because they were too RP oriented for him. But thinking they would not be making a return to MO2, or that they had been a big enough deal people would care about the similar tag, he wanted to use the tag he’d be using from other games pre-dating his brief time hanging out with Zeal in MO1.
As far as the idea he has been attempting to steal Zeal’s backstory and roleplay, I can personally confirm this allegation is entirely false. I can confirm it because I wrote Zeal’s backstory myself. Not only did I do it, I did so with no prodding because I like the idea of our guild having a backstory and a place in lore. Putzin felt it may feel “too RP” and has been somewhat resistant to the idea the guild should have any RP backstory or even a name that sounds “too RP”. I’ve been prodding him along to convince him having light RP elements like a backstory won’t detract from players who have no interest in RP. As far as I am concerned this entirely clears Putzin of any assertion he wants to steal another guild’s RP.
Our Offer to The Godkin’s Zeal
Many of us feel if Godkin’s Zeal ran with that name in MO1 that does give them more claim to it, and we would be happy to resolve this in a reasonable manner, setting aside the name and choosing a new name for the Zealot’s community to use in Mortal Online 2.
However, we’re less than pleased about the methods that the other Zeal has been attempting to use against us. While some of their story may have foundations of truth it also contains a lot of very colorful embellishment of facts. Enough embellishment we feel they constitute slander on certain points. Especially when our members have been being contacted in-game and on Discord to be told this false version of events.
At this point simply letting you have your tag feels like a weak move. A reward for slander and aggression. Even so, we are not unreasonable. If you will admit to the fact your constructed story contains elements that are made up to make us seem like villains when we are not, then you can have your name back. We will pick something else and that will be the end of it.
So as is well known in the community at this point there are two Zeals. Putzin's Zeal and a Zeal lead by Godkin which played Mortal Online 1. Putzin's Zeal’s name is derived from the fact he leads a gaming community known as Zealots. This is a name the community has held for years before he played MO and has nothing to do with Mortal Online. The other Zeal is of course the Zeal that came from Mortal Online 1. At the time of choosing our tag, Putzin was unaware they were planning to play MO2.
However, the story is presented by the other Zeal is that we stole their name with the malicious intent to pass ourselves off as them and hijack their roleplay. I have spoken with a representative of Godkin’s Zeal and heard his side of the story on this matter:
I’d like to address both points. First, the idea that Putzin stole the name looking to cash in on Zeal’s rep. I cannot confirm the existence of his Zealot community in his time before MO1 but I can confirm he did not at any point try to convince to any of us that his Zeal is the same Zeal as MO1. In fact, he was very clear on the point that it was not. Putzin never even joined Zeal, he simply spent some time sparring with them but left it because they were too RP oriented for him. But thinking they would not be making a return to MO2, or that they had been a big enough deal people would care about the similar tag, he wanted to use the tag he’d be using from other games pre-dating his brief time hanging out with Zeal in MO1.
As far as the idea he has been attempting to steal Zeal’s backstory and roleplay, I can personally confirm this allegation is entirely false. I can confirm it because I wrote Zeal’s backstory myself. Not only did I do it, I did so with no prodding because I like the idea of our guild having a backstory and a place in lore. Putzin felt it may feel “too RP” and has been somewhat resistant to the idea the guild should have any RP backstory or even a name that sounds “too RP”. I’ve been prodding him along to convince him having light RP elements like a backstory won’t detract from players who have no interest in RP. As far as I am concerned this entirely clears Putzin of any assertion he wants to steal another guild’s RP.
Our Offer to The Godkin’s Zeal
Many of us feel if Godkin’s Zeal ran with that name in MO1 that does give them more claim to it, and we would be happy to resolve this in a reasonable manner, setting aside the name and choosing a new name for the Zealot’s community to use in Mortal Online 2.
However, we’re less than pleased about the methods that the other Zeal has been attempting to use against us. While some of their story may have foundations of truth it also contains a lot of very colorful embellishment of facts. Enough embellishment we feel they constitute slander on certain points. Especially when our members have been being contacted in-game and on Discord to be told this false version of events.
At this point simply letting you have your tag feels like a weak move. A reward for slander and aggression. Even so, we are not unreasonable. If you will admit to the fact your constructed story contains elements that are made up to make us seem like villains when we are not, then you can have your name back. We will pick something else and that will be the end of it.
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