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I think industry titans of the same genre like EVE which have very good tutorial systems are a better measure than games that clone 90% of the mechanics from eachother rendering tutorials redundant if you've played any of them, and which have well organized / extensive wikis to teach you about...

Players should be leaving Haven with so many resources that it will matter greatly when they lose them. I don't think there is much benefit that comes from being griefed when you're at the "Press W to walk forward" phase of the game. I think a good tutorial that focuses on teaching players good...

If we actually were talking any significant population living in Haven as a safe area I'd prefer it be handled like high-security space in EVE. A much more secure area with lower value resources that you can travel back and forth from. I do have issues with cutting off certain parts of the game...

It's not clear who you are talking to since you didn't quote anyone in any of your posts. But no. I've heard some parts of Asia such as Japan may have faster speeds on NA servers but others will not. The point is individual cases are irrelevant. Only the overall affect. In the simplified...

I've been to Haven within the last month. I was hugely surprised by it's expansiveness and the number of mid level creatures I saw there. I know I saw razorbacks, I think even some wisents etc. And I didn't even explore the full island I was just there to get a donkey, get training down the path...

No we want the the lowest average ping for the playerbase as a whole. Wherever that has us putting the server. Your argument seems to boil down to "My ping will go up, that trumps evidence that there are more players pings who will go down because I don't believe the reliability of that data...

The need for a timer is always the symptom of a greater problem and I believe in attacking those problems head-on, instead of rushing new players through an experience that is 100% about them. If the problem is people staying too long because there is too much content, remove content that isn't...

Ideally, players shouldn't be on Haven too long and its intent is not to teach them the entire game. This shouldn't be done by any timer, but rather, a lack of things to do on Haven once you master basic mechanics. Going to Myrland for the first time is the next step of the new player...

Yes. The negative side effects are being way overblown but the potential positives are hard to overstate. An engaging/intuitive tutorial experience is the first chance for a game to interact with it's players and either draw them in, or push them away. Historically sandbox MMOs have a very high...

Some statistics are better than no statistics. And isolating some cases where pings will go up when there are many cases they will go down isn't data you can make a decision on. The data should be based on which server location results in the lowest average pings for all players. Average not...

A tutorial area is not a "Separate PVE" server. It's somewhere they can learn the basics like what keybind you use to swing a sword or how to interact with a mining node without trash tier bottom feeders running along and ganking them as they do so. A separate PVE server would be if Haven were...

I believe in this game and want to see it succeed. So if there is no tutorial / a bad tutorial you're going to see me produce something that's dramatically better than what I made for the Crowfall alpha. That being said, as I pointed out, most people will quit before they ever see it. I don't...

Raph gets constantly blasted for doing things players don't like on the Crowfall forums. I wouldn't conclude you don't need a tutorial just because Raph says you don't (Or rather doesn't say you do). Funny enough Crowfall is the only game I've made a guide for that explains literally everything...

Nobody is even arguing that point against you. Haven should be over for the general player fairly quickly if it's done well. Like nobody here is saying it should be its own continent that's actually designed to be equal to Myrland. We're saying newbs shouldn't be rushed through their tutorial or...

Fully voicing a tutorial wouldn't even be hard if they just asked the community to submit the audio. It might not be the greatest quality audio ever but given the numerous submissions they're sure to receive it should be decent as they can pick the best submission for each character they need...

This. If it's a mere change in where the server is and who suffers the low ping then don't do it. But if data shows (and I think it will) that somewhere else is the optimal location for giving the most players the best average ping then put it there.

Basically nobody WILL decide that and the vast majority of players will come join us on Myr if haven is optimized around providing the best tutorial possible and nothing else. This whole "trammel" argument seems like a thinly veiled argument put forward by people who just want to kill newbs...

Honestly if anyone goes to Haven to blueblock and otherwise grief newbs and this becomes known to SV just hand out a permanent account ban. It's deserved at that point. If they're going to keep remaking accounts just to be a twat then a timer wouldn't have done jack to stop them in the first place.

I both write guides and interact with newbs / answer their questions frequently in any game I become experienced in. I know the value of interaction with older players and that value won't go away even with the best tutorial because no tutorial can answer every question a player might have in a...

It will exist in game. SV is going to ignore this like they did the request for no guards for nearly the same reasons. And I'm really guessing there won't be a time limit if SV cares about new player experience at all. I kind of skimmed your post given it's length but the main takeaway I had...