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UK and that's great. If people don't like it, maybe the game isn't for them.

That's actually a valid point. Only took us 3 pages to get a sincere argument. What level of skill/xp loss would you find reasonable?

That's quite fatalistic, isn't it? You'd have multiple lives before permadeath would kick in but here you are assuming you'll just fail at lives management and will have to reroll over and over again. Have you so little belief in your own capabilities? A lot of false assumptions and conspiracy...

This is exactly what this game needs. We've come to a point in this game where the obvious bottlenecks, such as this, are really showing.

I mean, I'm sure the irony of someone bringing up entirely unrelated discussions from the past calling anyone salty went over your head entirely. Yikes, my man. Has a simple discussion about horse bags scarred you so deeply that you need to bring it up in every discussion you have with me...

Horse bags are of little importance and entirely irrelevant to the concept of permadeath. The horse bags would be wiped along with all other possessions you have upon permadeath.

I'm just going to have to ignore you cause I realise I am helping derail the thread myself by feeding this troll behaviour. Have fun trolling others, I won't be able to see it. I suggest the rest of us continue the discussion from this point on, in a constructive manner. Anyway, the concept is...

Hey, like I said, it's cool to have your own opinion but you're getting into denial and conspiracy theory territory right now. May I suggest a short break from the forums? I'd really like to get back ON topic, you know. I'd really hate to report you for purposefully derailing my thread.

Kind of a petty attitude. Thinking discussions are about "winning", mate. Finally something we can agree on.

So the core of this game is about "not permadeath"? I thought the core of this game was full loot PvP in a fantasy setting loosely based on the Middle Ages. I guess I missed the MO slogan that says "The game where you never die forever." Are you going to try the whataboutism tactic again or...

It's a solid defense against the attempts to dismiss it by implying "this is lunacy and nobody would even consider this". (It's 16vs15 as of this writing anyway.) If you don't see that then I don't know what more to say.

Bad analogy is bad. It would be closer to taking a glass of water from a pool and checking what the chlorine level in the pool is (You know? How scientists actually sample? They don't measure the entire body of water...). There are not billions of people playing MO. I would say "nice try" but I...

New characters don't lose much when they need to reroll. This really looks like grasping at straws. If you used up all your lives knowing the game is buggy and you need a suicide...tough luck. Spend your next lives more wisely. Don't see why the supposed "hardcore players" are such big fans of...

That a third likes the idea. Are you ignorant of how polling works?

You boys joke and try to dismiss it as lunacy but a third of the votes likes this idea.

I'm sure that's what people said about full loot too at one time. "Nobody will want to go out there and risk everything by fighting."

I figured a "lives system" could be viable. Similar to how muder counts disappear after a certain set of time has passed, lives could be regained after a certain amount of time. If you die when you have 0 lives left, you need to reroll. This would create a bigger value to your life while at the...

I want the game to be more hardcore. I proposed permadeath and a lot of people are like "oh no, that's too harsh". They don't seem to want any actual consequences for their choices that end up killing them. Like the title says, the game isn't hardcore enough.

Yes and people seem to like this game moving away from hardcore to more mainstream and "easy".

I believe the game really needs this to add more depth to the murder system.