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It sounds like you're saying they must build a system that we then circumvent immediately with additional characters. It seems to add hassle and complication that is likely to turn off many players rather than accomplish anything useful. "You can get justice, you just need to create 5 accounts...

Yes, the suggestion comes from a perspective that is consistent with our lore and role in Nave. The guards, flags, are all symbols of Tindremic imperial oppression. However, we are and will remain a very small minority on the server that seeks to cleanse the vast majority of Mortals. Despite...

Guards are no replacement for players. We essentially agree, but I think the baseline should be zero and the cost and requirements for very limited guards steep.

Appreciate the thoughtful reply. 🙏

Could you say more about the ones you believe would leave if players controlled towns. What scale? What are they worried about?

Join, comply, cooperate, fight, or leave. It's that simple. Players should enforce rules and justice in their region. #Zexit

Magos may never know the pain of the betrayal you suffered. I hear dwarves are often oppressed. Perhaps we do need guards to keep them safe from others. Something players could turn on in their region, similar to blacklist but without all the funky murdercount guard kos stuff. As long as it...

I wonder what will happen if full loot is added, material scarcity introduced, but they lag on implementing guards and flags.

You may be the first person I've encountered that believes SV solved the issues with flags and guards and haven. Thank you.

con•fu•sion kən-fyoo͞′zhən ► Believing guards and flags make Nave safer while also citing a marathon bloodbath of new players that featured both flags and guards.

No flags means the community can enforce laws as often and for as long as they need to be enforced without interference from the game mechanics. Only a griefer or very confused carebear would argue against this.

There is no request to remove guards, only to set the default at zero (can be added if players want them) and have no flagging unless it's specified by players in particular regions. You've taken a stab at reading my motives and done quite a poor job. I don't know you Piet, but I do know the...

Yeah, people like to murder to get stuff. Is there anything more to this comment?

I’d love to hear a well-reasoned argument based on observable facts that adding a flag system with murder counts would improve the experience in the alpha. I’ll wait.

Keep Nave free. 🙏

Sure, people like to murder when there's incentive to do so. People like to murder to ease boredom in Nave. Add an additional incentive for murder and the entire current state of play is invalid? Hmm... Are you saying that an increase in competition for resources would break down the current...

There has been some discussion about the flag system changing. it's all very mysterious. Here's some points to consider. Look at the Alpha. No guards, no universal flag. The fears of a constant deathmatch arena are unjustified and dis-proven. People are able to craft, explore, and do things...

She stood in front of me in rags, wet blood textured on her dark Sidoian flesh.“This is the end!” she shouted then laughed. “The Gods grow so weary of the diseased and corrupted souls of Nave, even hell refuses their arrival!” Her laughter became so loud and intense I began to feel unsettled but...

You have made many claims, and oaths, it's not surprising to see you retreat from them so quickly, it's an unfortunate pattern with you, Putzin. Indeed. Nave is where all words are met with the harshness of the gods' will and the character of the man.

Eldrath is a member of the faith.