Npc body guards for gold and reputation

Jatix

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Most people will hate the idea of NPC guards but honestly it does kinda make sense with the rest of the game mechanics. MO1 guilds spammed max npc guards in their tc. why didnt they have to manually defend their TC, isnt it a player driven game? And theres guards in town. Why cant we remove guards from town, I thought its a player driven game? So theres no reason the guards couldn't go with you. A rich merchant could easily hire tons of guards to transport valuables.

Its almost like 90% of the game isnt player driven. Theres a standing system so people can sit in npc towns safely. And 99% of trade, butchery, banking, using vendors, etc all happens in NPC towns.

This game is zerg to win so its only fair that people can counter the zerg with guards. Otherwise its just biggest group wins and smaller groups have 0 chance.
 
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Most people will hate the idea of NPC guards but honestly it does kinda make sense with the rest of the game mechanics. MO1 guilds spammed max npc guards in their tc. why didnt they have to manually defend their TC, isnt it a player driven game? And theres guards in town. Why cant we remove guards from town, I thought its a player driven game? So theres no reason the guards couldn't go with you. A rich merchant could easily hire tons of guards to transport valuables.

Its almost like 90% of the game isnt player driven. Theres a standing system so people can sit in npc towns safely. And 99% of trade, butchery, banking, using vendors, etc all happens in NPC towns.

This game is zerg to win so its only fair that people can counter the zerg with guards. Otherwise its just biggest group wins and smaller groups have 0 chance.
Yea this game is only player driven in Henriks head fantasy.

Removing guards from NPC towns was removed due to bad players whining enough to get SVs attention like always sadly.
You know how modern privilege is...
 
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TheOxMan

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Yea this game is only player driven in Henriks head fantasy.

Removing guards from NPC towns was removed due to bad players whining enough to get SVs attention like always sadly.
You know how modern privilege is...
I mean from what I gather henrik seems to understand that there are many features that are still needed to get to a fully player driven state.

seems a bit harsh to accuse him of being delusional just because it’s not up to spec in your eyes no?
 

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I mean from what I gather henrik seems to understand that there are many features that are still needed to get to a fully player driven state.

seems a bit harsh to accuse him of being delusional just because it’s not up to spec in your eyes no?

Please keep in mind that @ThaBadMan is a vet and he has seen SV act like this consistently.
Same with me.
Henrik proclaims stuff that sounds good and gets people like you backing him and then... Well... Things don't happen.


I'm happy to enjoy a bit of forum PvP with people and happy to have a bit of fun with @ThaBadMan. We have both seen how SV have progressed for years upon years and we have been left feeling underwhelmed.
 

TheOxMan

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Please keep in mind that @ThaBadMan is a vet and he has seen SV act like this consistently.
Same with me.
Henrik proclaims stuff that sounds good and gets people like you backing him and then... Well... Things don't happen.


I'm happy to enjoy a bit of forum PvP with people and happy to have a bit of fun with @ThaBadMan. We have both seen how SV have progressed for years upon years and we have been left feeling underwhelmed.
Fair enough I suppose, I get venting frustrations.

not sure it helps get things done though that you want to see. Is what it is I guess
 
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ThaBadMan

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I mean from what I gather henrik seems to understand that there are many features that are still needed to get to a fully player driven state.

seems a bit harsh to accuse him of being delusional just because it’s not up to spec in your eyes no?
Delusional is such a harsh word.
I like calling it flawed fantasy, since his vision just isnt what we have. I was there at the beginning of MO listening for so many hours to him and all the rest of them on the vision of the game before tech limits, before whiners shaping it, before all the changes lessening the game it could be. I has seent the shapening!
Trust me in these way too many years me and Henrik has our history, he knows all I say come from a good place.
Im disgruntled, but fuck me im still here 12 years later. He still has managed the closest game to that, I will always give him that.