Vadda Crusher/Grinder Area Needs Guards

Naskin

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Tindrem recently had guards added to protect the crusher/grinder areas. Vadda could really use the same. Horse snipers/looters are a constant threat inside city limits. Right now, you only have a few options when crushing/grinding:

1. Take all your stuff off your horse. If your horse is killed, at least you still have your items on you. But you are now a sitting duck weighed down by your materials and cannot escape. It requires rep loss and an MC if they want to kill you, and they sometimes do.
2. Leave your stuff on your horse. You must be paying attention to your horse at all times and be ready to either jump on it and ride away, or be ready to loot it ASAP when it dies. This leaves you as a sitting duck once again like Option #1.
3. Sit directly on your horse and be ready to fight or run as needed. You will always need to take the first hit from anyone attacking if you want to fight (so they become crim).
4. Park your horse near guards and run 1 load at a time to the crusher.


None of these options make the game "fun." The vast majority of people that are frequently crushing in Vadda are now doing Option #4. It's a lot of extra tedious work that isn't necessary in other cities. The risk for the person sniping/looting is minimal (horse + cheap weapon at most), the reward is very high (full loot of a mining run).

Please, just add some guards nearby like every other crafting area has.
 

ArcaneConsular

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I mean I agree but the only reason crushing times exist in the first place is to give players a chance to kill you. I wish the game design was based more on fun though yeah
 
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Naskin

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I mean I agree but the only reason crushing times exist in the first place is to give players a chance to kill you. I wish the game design was based more on fun though yeah

If that were the case, then why add guards in some cities but not others? Also, why add times to furnaces/refining/alchemy when there are guards all around as well (even in Vadda)?

Crushing times will also still matter in lawless towns and with placeable crushers outside of cities.
 

Xunila

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I can understand the request. In most cities the extraction area is inside the guarded town, only Bakti and Moh Ki have the devices in front of the gate.
 

JunidO

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Why they need guards? - This is a hardcore full loot pvp if i right? and the guards do nothing i get killed many times by players direct byside a npc guard. in all citys out there
 

ArcaneConsular

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If that were the case, then why add guards in some cities but not others? Also, why add times to furnaces/refining/alchemy when there are guards all around as well (even in Vadda)?

Crushing times will also still matter in lawless towns and with placeable crushers outside of cities.

There weren't guards near them in beta but people complained a lot so they added them. Kept the wait time still though. Even though I think it's dumb because who really has fun waiting 30 minutes for their ore to crush
 

Naskin

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"There weren't guards near them in beta but people complained a lot so they added them. "

This is what I'm hoping can happen. Just add a few guard spawns. Vadda isn't as populated as Tindrem, so people probably won't be quite as vocal.
 

Tzone

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Why should people have no risk? Its like people want to go outside and mine with out risk and then they want to crush it with out risk. Like might as well just make steel free if all it takes is time as there would be no risk.
 

Naskin

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Why should people have no risk? Its like people want to go outside and mine with out risk and then they want to crush it with out risk. Like might as well just make steel free if all it takes is time as there would be no risk.

Yes, there is still risk since mining involves risk. The risk is expected. You are outside city limits.

Why is there risk inside some guarded cities for crushers (due to no guards being around) and no risk inside other guarded cities (where they added a bunch of guards)? Make it equal inside guarded cities and put guards by simple extraction tools.
 

iiell

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If only the Crusher area in all towns/cities were as guarded as Meduli is. Meduli even has Elite Guards within line of sight!
 

Naskin

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If only the Crusher area in all towns/cities were as guarded as Meduli is. Meduli even has Elite Guards within line of sight!

Right?! I'm in a guild that is very KOS to guilds in Meduli, and I'm 100% protected when crushing/grinding there. I can go AFK to my heart's content, but in Vadda where my alliance is based out of, it's far more dangerous. Makes no sense.