Unreal Engine 5 ?

[mortalsn]

Just saw this linked in reddit. Big news? Old news?

Mortal Online 2 Awarded Epic MegaGrant to Support Next Phase, Including Transition to Unreal Engine 5 | MMORPG.com

Star Vault has been awarded an Epic MegaGrant from Epic Games and will work to transition Mortal Online 2 over to Unreal Engine 5.

www.mmorpg.com

 

[Vulpin]

It was given to the last week.

 

[finegamingconnoisseur]

Mortal Online 2 stands out from the crowd and turns heads once again.

I wonder how the game will look in UE5. UE4 is already incredibly advanced and powerful, one can only imagine what UE5 will bring.

 

[strycio]

Mortal Online 2 stands out from the crowd and turns heads once again.

I wonder how the game will look in UE5. UE4 is already incredibly advanced and powerful, one can only imagine what UE5 will bring.

not that much different if you dont make everything new

 

[bbihah]

not that much different if you dont make everything new

Not exactly true. in UE5 Shadows are handled differently and work much better in all LOD states. So just from the engine switch alone we'll get better looking outdoor areas. Dungeons will probably look about the same though, since they are so dark, but who knows.

Water reflections on the base implementation are improved, so water will possibly look a bit better. This also carries over if they decide to use the UE implementation for rain making surfaces wet and reflective.


And I think UE5 might have raytracing inherently now as well, so with that on and if it runs at ok FPS that will be a pretty good looking improvement for shadows and surface reflections.



Beyond that, it would require work from the SV team to improve aesthetics. As long as new vs old things dont look out of place they shouldn't be in a rush to update older models for new if they decide to use some newer techniques and technology.

 

[finegamingconnoisseur]

Just watched this video comparing UE5 to UE4, generally speaking I think both look very impressive though UE5 looks to be superior in that it is far more granular and lifelike.

 

[Vulpin]

I don't think SV plans to upgrade the games entire graphic using UE5. I think the biggest things we can expect is smoother game experience, higher FPS, better lighting an weather effects, an hopefully an end to land lines or less craziness when crossing land line.

 

[Emdash]

I don't think SV plans to upgrade the games entire graphic using UE5. I think the biggest things we can expect is smoother game experience, higher FPS, better lighting an weather effects, an hopefully an end to land lines or less craziness when crossing land line.

which is good enough for me haha.

 

[bbihah]

which is good enough for me haha.

Amen

 

[strycio]

Not exactly true. in UE5 Shadows are handled differently and work much better in all LOD states. So just from the engine switch alone we'll get better looking outdoor areas. Dungeons will probably look about the same though, since they are so dark, but who knows.

Water reflections on the base implementation are improved, so water will possibly look a bit better. This also carries over if they decide to use the UE implementation for rain making surfaces wet and reflective.


And I think UE5 might have raytracing inherently now as well, so with that on and if it runs at ok FPS that will be a pretty good looking improvement for shadows and surface reflections.



Beyond that, it would require work from the SV team to improve aesthetics. As long as new vs old things dont look out of place they shouldn't be in a rush to update older models for new if they decide to use some newer techniques and technology.

Well i dont said that there will be no difference. Sure Lightning and all that comes with it from shadows, reflections and rays will improve, but models and textures wont look much different.

 

[bbihah]

Well i dont said that there will be no difference. Sure Lightning and all that comes with it from shadows, reflections and rays will improve, but models and textures wont look much different.

Well better LOD states will have a positive effect on how models and textures look, so yes?

 

[mortalsn]

I don't think SV plans to upgrade the games entire graphic using UE5. I think the biggest things we can expect is smoother game experience, higher FPS, better lighting an weather effects, an hopefully an end to land lines or less craziness when crossing land line.

That is the part that confuses me actually. Could they in a reasonable time (if they wanted to) with just ~30 developers? Because some say adopting UE5 will delay Ashes of Creation release date by a lot, so I assumed it requires a lot of work to make the switch. Maybe it will be partial adoption as you suggest.

 

[Farligbonde]

That is the part that confuses me actually. Could they in a reasonable time (if they wanted to) with just ~30 developers? Because some say adopting UE5 will delay Ashes of Creation release date by a lot, so I assumed it requires a lot of work to make the switch. Maybe it will be partial adoption as you suggest.

The difference between Star vaults development pipline and Ashes Of Creations development pipeline is like night and day.
Have no doubt Star Vault can pull it off in a reasonable amount of time.

 

[Bogler]

Graphics are always a huge pull for players, even those who aren't into the game itself. MO always had some of the best graphics for an MMORPG (maybe not in the mid-end of MO1) so it makes sense that they are keeping up with the technology. Fingers crossed it pays off!

 

[Bathor]

New shaders and rendering won't fix level design - will be cool to see the engine in a huge outdoor environment though! From what I've understood is that the Naanite tech of UE5 is auto-generating LODs in a bit of a different way and replacing the classic LOD0, LOD1, LOD2 way of doing things.

 

[Vulpin]

That is the part that confuses me actually. Could they in a reasonable time (if they wanted to) with just ~30 developers? Because some say adopting UE5 will delay Ashes of Creation release date by a lot, so I assumed it requires a lot of work to make the switch. Maybe it will be partial adoption as you suggest.

I believe Ash of Creation team plans to remake the game's entire graphic and how graphic render *& work, SV just plans to use UE5 to improve lighting effects, and increase the game's stability. I mean I could be wrong about this, but given how SV doesn't plan to delay the game but convert it into the UE5 I believe it what they plan on doing. Which IMO is fine I don't think many people who are looking to play this game really care about having next gen graphics, they just want a working game that they'd enjoy.

 

[Jackdstripper]

Fix the damn node lines, stuck spots and endless terrain mesh gaps before worrying about prettier graphics.

 

[Nisse]

UE5 will fix the node lines. SV said months ago that they abandoned their own version of the fix as they would rather wait and use the official UE5 fix. The implication is we won’t see node lines fixed before the engine switch.

 

[Emdash]

UE5 will fix the node lines. SV said months ago that they abandoned their own version of the fix as they would rather wait and use the official UE5 fix. The implication is we won’t see node lines fixed before the engine switch.

I mean I feel that, but otoh, all of these just wait things also irk me. Cuz you never know how long it's gonna take to switch. My horse disappearing from under me/arrows disappearing... is fine if I'm not being attacked... annoying but fine. However, getting mounts back or, poor BMs... it sucks. I dunno why they can't just make pets leash harder and re-appear until then. I dunno what other node line stuff is happening.

Hope the fix is coming soon. Put the new 40 dollar second acct EMDASH GRANT in that jar.

This is one of the cases where a bandaid fix is NECESSARY.

 

[Farligbonde]

UE5 will fix the node lines. SV said months ago that they abandoned their own version of the fix as they would rather wait and use the official UE5 fix. The implication is we won’t see node lines fixed before the engine switch.

False. Nodelines are basically just servers and is on SV side.
What you are thinking of is level streaming, that will improve with UE5. The level streaming lines are basically the hiccups you can feels close to a town etc..