Murder Count Should've Reset with Veteran System

Sally

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Anyone who is a real red player (a red player that doesn't play in a guild) will likely have found the introduction of the veteran system to be MASSIVELY troublesome.

Now, i have no doubt a lot of blues pretending to be red will say it is fine, because they tend to hate red players for killing them; but... It isn't fine..

Allow me to explain.

PVE tasks are WAY easier as a blue, and PVP provides no clade.

So, as a red player, do you think i expected that i'd have to do PVE again, when i thrust myself so deep into red, it would be impossible to climb out again? No.

Now i find i NEED to do PVE to get to mastery, otherwise i'm at a significant disadvantage. So.. I have massively low rep.. A massively high murder count.

How is it fair not to reset murder count when introducing this system? Like.. Do you have any idea how difficult it is playing as a solo hated red player trying to do PVE tasks, when all the blues have an advantage on me now?

They all have their mastery.. But me? Nope. Because i'm getting chased and attacked at every turn.

Blue players be like "Well, you shouldn't have murdered people!"

Yes; but you need criminals in your game. It isn't about punishing people you think are bad. People who murder in game are not necessarily morally bad people. Please understand this basic fact. It is a GAME. The game NEEDS red players. They create player driven content.

As a red player, with low rep.. I am in an extremely difficult position when it comes to doing tasks. On my blue alt, i'd say it is 100x easier. Less distance to travel, easier access to banks.. Less chance of death. Like... How is this fair on reds who were red before veteran was announced?
 
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CherryKush

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I have always said from the beginning there needs to be a couple Red cities where the guards there attack the blue players on sight. Make it a Thieves and Pirates kind of city with their own Red flavor of tasks to be given to the "baddies".
 

CherryKush

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It doesn't even need to be a full city, it could be like an underground hideaway or something...
 

KebekLorde

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Just do cave camp risar tasks, one of the most efficient ways to fast farm glory for mastery with 0 investment.
 

Sally

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Just do cave camp risar tasks, one of the most efficient ways to fast farm glory for mastery with 0 investment.
Is this sarcasm? Cave camp? Every time i've been to cave camp, i've been attacked. It is one of the most hostile placed on the game.
 

Embuscade

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Is this sarcasm? Cave camp? Every time i've been to cave camp, i've been attacked. It is one of the most hostile placed on the game.
Personally, I farmed there for a long time and got killed lots of times, but if you talk to the guilds around here, if you take the time to negotiate with the people so that they leave you in peace here, it can be done.

As for being red, apart from doing missions to win back some... I've run out of words, but getting you to turn blue is possible, it'll just take you a few months.

And I'm sorry the game doesn't need red, you're scum and the game allows it, only the cities are badly done and there isn't a red city especially like in Albion Online, but I'll make a suggestion on that.
 

Xunila

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The current red system is sooooo easy compared to MO1!

You had stat loss when when getting killed in MO1! Means you had to train some points in strength, dex, const, int and psy again.

You can enter all cities in MO2. In MO1 you could enter the three unguarded cities only.
 

Sally

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The current red system is sooooo easy compared to MO1!

You had stat loss when when getting killed in MO1! Means you had to train some points in strength, dex, const, int and psy again.

You can enter all cities in MO2. In MO1 you could enter the three unguarded cities only.
I'm not asking for changes to the system, i'm saying they should've reset the murder count if they're going to have forced PVE to compete.
 

Sally

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prove and redeem yourself with long suffering, to become blue you need to earn it.:ROFLMAO:
People like you are precisely the problem. You've failed to draw a line between the game and the person playing the game. To you, murdering someone in the game means they are a bad person in real life.

You don't know anything about my real life, yet, you're happy to judge me on a game that NEEDS people to go red (for the sake of player events).. I mean, you have an entire bounty system based off red names.
 

Melhisedek

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Absolutely right. You're the same in real life, only you're also a cowardly rat, and you don't show yourself because you're afraid of justice. and I have nothing against villains and maniacs, either in the game or in real life. If you've chosen the path of a gangster, then don't whine that the law isn't fair.
 

Emdash

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People like you are precisely the problem. You've failed to draw a line between the game and the person playing the game. To you, murdering someone in the game means they are a bad person in real life.

You don't know anything about my real life, yet, you're happy to judge me on a game that NEEDS people to go red (for the sake of player events).. I mean, you have an entire bounty system based off red names.

That dude is Henrik or some other Dev, and he's using AI to generate troll posts loool.

Clues:

Salty euro.

Appears around certain times.

Seems to be checking the forum a lot, but doesn't log in a lot.

Made an acct around the time Henrik stopped posting on forum!

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I can't for the life of me, unless it's someone I know, but I doubt they'd keep it up this long, understand why any player would make a troll acct to white knight the game.

This was his first troll post, aimed at yours truly ;) ;) The only reason it might not be Henrik is because I'd be surprised if Henrik didn't know I was a noncombat cook in MO1 haha. But otoh I doubt he cares or pays attention to what is happening in his game.

"The main task at the moment is just to evict those mentally retarded morons who turned Mortal 1 into a garbage dump. In the new mortal, creative players are needed who must create their own environment, build settlements, develop relations between guilds, and not stupidly hammer all living things over their heads indiscriminately. This game is primarily a sandbox, and pvp is a secondary entertainment. So maybe these creative players will play, and aggressive garbage will be eliminated by itself. In any case, I believe that Henrik wants exactly this result."

from this thread: https://mortalonline2.com/forums/threads/april-and-im-in-my-feelings.6852/#post-64406

GETM HENRIK.
 

MortalEnjoyer42069

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The reroll token should completely reroll your character including your name, clade gifts, and mastery allocation as it's a paid service. I do not think it should reroll your standing or murdercounts as those are actions that you choice to enact on others.
 

Xunila

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I'm not sure about the name. Changing the name would remove the character from a guild. And I don't know about house ownerships. Are they by name or by account?

But I agree to the character configuration like clade, size, age, ...

Prominence points (XP) should be untouched (or not???) but all taken clade and mastery gifts have to get a reset. About the XP: Buying a clade gift reset costs gold coins and removes 10% of the XP. Maybe a reroll should also cost XP?
 

MortalEnjoyer42069

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I'm not sure about the name. Changing the name would remove the character from a guild. And I don't know about house ownerships. Are they by name or by account?

But I agree to the character configuration like clade, size, age, ...

Prominence points (XP) should be untouched (or not???) but all taken clade and mastery gifts have to get a reset. About the XP: Buying a clade gift reset costs gold coins and removes 10% of the XP. Maybe a reroll should also cost XP?
House ownership is by account. You can completely delete all characters on an account, recreate a character with a completely different name and still access your home. In fact, the game will still show the house being owned by your character under a previous name.
 
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