Making Money In Haven

[DHBloodwolf]

New video here. In this video I go about showing you how I make money in Haven from Bandits.

Since I have recorded this video they have changed the drops that you receive from killing Bandits. They now drop Bandit heads which are worth 80 Silver each which means Bandits are even better to farm for money then they were beforehand.

 

[Myrothas McMillan]

Yeah that kinda is what i plan on persistance release. Just get rich b4 entering the world of grief.

 

[DHBloodwolf]

Yeah that kinda is what i plan on persistance release. Just get rich b4 entering the world of grief.

Yeah that true. Though Haven will be really busy and everyone will be fighting over bandits and zombies for money

 

[Belteyn]

You should not be able to make money in Haven. It should be a tutorial location only.

 

[DHBloodwolf]

You should not be able to make money in Haven. It should be a tutorial location only.

How do you buy weapons and materials to learn the game in the tutorial area if there was no money?

 

[Belteyn]

How do you buy weapons and materials to learn the game in the tutorial area if there was no money?

I didn't say there should be no money, but only a tiny bit is needed to learn the basics.

I my opinion Haven should be about learning the basics NOT buying all the skill books you think you might want, trying multiple weapons, armor types etc.... In my opinion Haven should simply be a a few hours at most, involving some tutorials, a few trips to the graveyard and buying a few starter skills.

 

[Amadman]

I know it is not what some players where looking for haven to be. Me included to some extent.

However, I think you are doing exactly what SV wants you to be able to do.

And that is to build up your knowledge of the game and character skills a bit before being thrusted into the real world.

Sure there will still be hard lessons to learn. But you will be much more prepared than the new players of the past.

 

[Sauron]

You could simply introduce a separate non-exchangeable currency for haven, remove linked banks, limit spell books and block transition to Nave for encumbered characters.

BOOM, problem solved.

 

[Xunila]

BOOM, problem solved.

Transfer naked only. Or with the one stack you can carry. But coming with some 1000 gold coins to a city on the continent is kind of abusing the transfer feature.

 

[DHBloodwolf]

I didn't say there should be no money, but only a tiny bit is needed to learn the basics.

I my opinion Haven should be about learning the basics NOT buying all the skill books you think you might want, trying multiple weapons, armor types etc.... In my opinion Haven should simply be a a few hours at most, involving some tutorials, a few trips to the graveyard and buying a few starter skills.

I agree with not being able to buy all the skill books but with this game there are so many mechanics that are not mentioned or explained to the player whatsoever and Haven gives new players the chance to learn the combat controls, how to extract ores, how to craft gear.

It should also be the place where a new player can try out different play styles, character builds and professions before they fully commit to one.

I mean there are many mechanics that you cannot learn in Haven like the reputation and flagging system. Which I was very confused about when I first entered the main land. I had to have a guild Member explain it all to me.

 

[DHBloodwolf]

I know it is not what some players where looking for haven to be. Me included to some extent.

However, I think you are doing exactly what SV wants you to be able to do.

And that is to build up your knowledge of the game and character skills a bit before being thrusted into the real world.

Sure there will still be hard lessons to learn. But you will be much more prepared than the new players of the past.

Im sure there is plenty of changes to Haven that will happen and it will be refined to give new players at least a chance to learn the game before being flung Into the mainland.

 

[DHBloodwolf]

You could simply introduce a separate non-exchangeable currency for haven, remove linked banks, limit spell books and block transition to Nave for encumbered characters.

BOOM, problem solved.

I mean right now you can leave a horse in the Fabernum Stable and reroll and then you have a horse in Haven. Stables don't reset. Im sure they will change many things before release

 

[DHBloodwolf]

Transfer naked only. Or with the one stack you can carry. But coming with some 1000 gold coins to a city on the continent is kind of abusing the transfer feature.

Yeah that is a bit overboard but it is so much quicker to make money in the mainland. You would save so much time just leaving Haven

 

[Amadman]

Im sure there is plenty of changes to Haven that will happen and it will be refined to give new players at least a chance to learn the game before being flung Into the mainland.

Your video as a new player shows it is already doing this to a large degree even in this unrefined state. So it can only get better.

 

[Sauron]

Transfer naked only. Or with the one stack you can carry. But coming with some 1000 gold coins to a city on the continent is kind of abusing the transfer feature.

I believe i did mention different currency.
Also naked is too far

 

[Amadman]

Yeah that is a bit overboard but it is so much quicker to make money in the mainland. You would save so much time just leaving Haven

This is it in a nut shell.

There should be way more opportunities in the main land than haven. Even if players do try to take advantage of Haven, at some point they should be better served to go to the mainland.

But if some people stay in Haven and build up I really don't think it will have a large effect on the over all game. For every little bit that is being done in Haven there is a whole large world where much more should be getting done outside of it.

If it turns out not to be the case then I think the problem would be with the opportunities in the game itself and not that of Havens.

That all being said, I do agree that they should make it where you only keep what you can carry and are not allowed to be encumbered when you transfer to the mainland.

Getting access to a whole banks inventory in every town is quite a stretch from the normal workings of the game. I can see how someone would want to fill this bank before leaving Haven to take full advantage of it.

 

[Konrad]

I don't know how to feel about this, for one its good haven is viable to learn the basics and you can actually do stuff there and learn a lot of things, get books and shit but the problem is that you can basically live there making a lot of money and mining / woodcutting for days and than transfer it safely to any town you want and THATS BULLSHIT, there shouldn't be such 'safety' transfer mechanic in-game, getting some stuff out from that bank is definitely nice for new guys to have some started equipment but people will abuse the fuck out of it, it shouldn't be like this.

 

[Xunila]

Nice, I just found Sea Dew in Haven, so I could go with some stacks of Sea Dew to the main world to craft potions.
This should be changed!

 

[DHBloodwolf]

This is it in a nut shell.

There should be way more opportunities in the main land than haven. Even if players do try to take advantage of Haven, at some point they should be better served to go to the mainland.

But if some people stay in Haven and build up I really don't think it will have a large effect on the over all game. For every little bit that is being done in Haven there is a whole large world where much more should be getting done outside of it.

If it turns out not to be the case then I think the problem would be with the opportunities in the game itself and not that of Havens.

That all being said, I do agree that they should make it where you only keep what you can carry and are not allowed to be encumbered when you transfer to the mainland.

Getting access to a whole banks inventory in every town is quite a stretch from the normal workings of the game. I can see how someone would want to fill this bank before leaving Haven to take full advantage of it.

I know that people will be purposely farming money in Haven just so that they have access to a stash of cash in every town which they can use to pickup the books that are exclusive to that town. The Devs seem to be preventing this with the addition of certain items also being required to gain these exclusive books. Which in my opinion is a great fix to this issue.

 

[Konrad]

I know that people will be purposely farming money in Haven just so that they have access to a stash of cash in every town which they can use to pickup the books that are exclusive to that town. The Devs seem to be preventing this with the addition of certain items also being required to gain these exclusive books. Which in my opinion is a great fix to this issue.

No it's not, and thats not the reason they did that. You can just buy the book from someone that lives in that region for regular gold, doesnt change shit, besides the point if you can grind materials and gold efficiently in there, there is no reason to play in Nave for like first few months xD just grind shit ton of crap in there and than move it. THATS AN ISSUE not me transfering gold to buy freaking merc armour for 8 gold. Whats next boulder spawners in haven ? lmao, might as well add blast furnace and tephra