Personally taking a break until sieging and necromancy are added into game. There's only so many times you can kill some noob before it gets boring. I don't even feel good about it I'm just like alright. Mining is tedious and not fun. Not even that profitable anymore. Taming is probably the most engaging and fun content but still pretty annoying and easy to lose pets. Killing bandits and zombies also only so many times you can do it before it gets boring.
Low pop and frustration.
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Need better solo and small group PvE so when the pop is low, of if you guild is semi dead at times like this. You have something to do. Thats what they need to focus on after they get this current roadmap complete.
If you need a group to do some of the "better" PvE content in the game then you probably wont have people doing it. Why log in if you cant really play because people are offline.
PvP is the main reason to play, PvP is the main reason to PvE. If people dont fill like they can get PvP then they wont PvE which lowers the pop even more.
Focus more on content for those solo/small groups instead of killing off the PvP content which was the safety net of the game. If there is PvP to be had you will have a population.
If you need a group to do some of the "better" PvE content in the game then you probably wont have people doing it. Why log in if you cant really play because people are offline.
PvP is the main reason to play, PvP is the main reason to PvE. If people dont fill like they can get PvP then they wont PvE which lowers the pop even more.
Focus more on content for those solo/small groups instead of killing off the PvP content which was the safety net of the game. If there is PvP to be had you will have a population.
Yeah zerg down everyone you fight or sit inside town until you can zerg down everyone you fight then lie about doing it. Then complain that its other people driving away players ect...
You cant really blame players for SV putting out a very buggy patch that cut a huge chunk of the new players off of the game as whey flavored of the month else where. That was one of the pops major hits.
Outside of that the priest changes killed off more of the older more stable population then anything else. Along with all the unfun anti PvP changes when PvP is your games base content and the reason people log on.
The PvE is lacking and all that crafting is shallow when you figure it out. People cant make money crafting with how many of the PvPers are gone.
This is a full loot survival game in a MMORPG shell. Henrik doesnt understand that.
Well said. Also, everyone knew making the map so damn big was a mistake. Henrik was foaming at the mouth over it though...
Some times Henrik says something on steam that is totally logical and correct. But a couple of months go by and he apparently for got what he learned or said.
So annoying to see him learn but then just forget about what he learned.
But there WAS communication last week
"Trading Hacking Scam
Hello Mortals,
There has been a scam used by hackers to set up trades of big ticket items or rare stacks of goods which you are tricked into giving your things and/or they kill you with hacks. The Game Masters are working to permanently remove these players. For now we advice to not trade with players you cannot trust. @everyone"
So you're telling me I shouldn't trade and should fear being randomly killed by hacks at any moment.
I'm sure this got many players to hurry and log in again. Especially newer ones
ofc training and babysitting is a playstyle that wont leave much time to other tasks. I meant simply answering contructively to honest questions in helpchat, and by whisper allow them to ask more complicated questions. And ofc maybe hold back on the new player killingThats good for the people that feel like doing it, i've trained and teached so many people in MO1 that i don't feel like ever doing it again, can't really be asking for players to babysit noobs because game design is poop.
But i encourage the ones that build bridges
For example, people farming graveyards are not veterans farming for profit(it might be vets skilling up, but rarely), everyone knows this, even though there are many excuses for doing it anyway.There is no manual for this game. New players are completely lost.
I go out of my way to help some people, but i also kill and zerg others (and vice versa of course).
I belive any player can follow a role as bad or good, it shouldnt matter for the game sucess.
Main reason why i see so many friends quiting is boredom. SV focus is questionable and feels like they dont wanna listen / change.
Maps is huge and empty, excpet for points of interest close to jungle and fab. You waste hours moving arround and trying different activities, when it fails 2 or 3 times in a roll you just feels like wasting your time.
I still play and farm daily, i just dont want it to become mo1.
lmao is this troll or real? i wouldn't know cuz they banned me from mortal discord like 4 years agoBut there WAS communication last week
"Trading Hacking Scam
Hello Mortals,
There has been a scam used by hackers to set up trades of big ticket items or rare stacks of goods which you are tricked into giving your things and/or they kill you with hacks. The Game Masters are working to permanently remove these players. For now we advice to not trade with players you cannot trust. @everyone"
So you're telling me I shouldn't trade and should fear being randomly killed by hacks at any moment.
I'm sure this got many players to hurry and log in again. Especially newer ones
what are you saying, pve is in great shape who doesn't enjoy semi-afk mining or terrible yield time consuming gathering. Find it kinda funnay the ones that said pve is great don't even play anymore xD
I like robmo but he worded this is a bad way.
Basicly what happened is that hackers were trade ganking people. They get them to come to the trade with the goods then machine gun bow them down, jack the loot and then logged off.
haha, that's about what I got out of it, too. I agree w/ Alb, that shit is mad funny. It does make it sound worse, but it's already pretty bad.
As for vacation, hell yea those dudes all need a vacation at once, they are hoping they can get the game stable so they can sleep for a week straight or something.
It's really sad. I understand doods cuz you say you go to a pvp hotspot, but really you want like... organic pvp? If you are in a hot spot you are either just farming people or getting farmed most likely. Or you have a decent group, and that's cool.
I really stand behind HAVEN being the actual downfall of MO because they started to reach for something that was unattainable and thus added two problematic, un-MO things: instances and pvp free zones. It was a big change in direction. It doesn't take that many people to drive this world. Getting 3k subs might be a pipe dream unless things are running perfectly, but it's those core 500 people that are gonna drive your game to that level of activity, not 2k nubs who are just pvers. Honestly heh.
if the community only knew those hackers" don't even have to buy accounts to do it XD don't matter if they get banned...
If they're taking their time with patches that is far more preferable than trash patches every 2 weeks.
There's a fundamental problem with mortal. That is whatever you're doing often isn't worth the risk. Go out alone with steel armor and die to a mage + fighter combo for example even if they are bad players. When you take this logic all the way its almost not even worth logging in.
The game desperately needs AOE spells and or cleave, a lower TTk, life and manage regen when killing and speed boosts. If you could realistically kill someone kite in and out kill someone else etc it may be more fun to stay logged in. I'd also advocate for a big damage reduction on taking damage from multiple sources, with some way of discerning untagged friendlies.
Then you just have to deal with the I'm quitting because I suck problem.
But terror birds are easy to kill according to Henrik and if you dont know how you're a noob. LOL #balance.
I commend SV for not releasing the patch yet. Im ok with the silence as well if it means releasing more polished patches.
For the people that really need the polished non buggy patches in order to keep playing, I think they are else where for the time being but if/when they comeback SV needs to make sure these patches are polished.
The people who waited for release, the FotM players, and the more casual players would not keep playing a alpha quality patched game. Hopefully this is a sign of them learning that they need to stop treating this like beta 2.0 with their updates.
I can handle the bugs but the players who are weaker mental or dont have lots of time to commit to a game and value their time differently wont and they are the people that fluff up the pop numbers.
I would like more risk for being naked. For reds its like oh shit now I have to spawn 30 mins away. Unless they are using their strong hold.
For blues its just a non stop wave of their naked bodies bashing against your sword as they grief you with rep loss.
Statloss which some people want should be for everyone if they have it because blue alts are the biggest no consequence play style in the game. Also need spawn timers if you die to much. If some blue dies 3 times in a row then he lost and should accept that loss.
Don't underestimate the current player base! With averaged 1000 accounts in the steam chart (could be 800 during last week, but just for simple estimation) and averaged 3 hours play time per day we get 8000 active accounts. Of cause the real numbers are known to StarVault only.