Incentivize Bony

[pooternackle]

Bony is clearly designed for dex mages, but there is no reason for anyone to make their character bony when the int bonus is only +10. To get that +10 int, you have to accept -5 psyche, a measly +5 dex which means unless you’re alvarin most foot fighters will outpace you still, diminished stam reserves, and much lower hp.

I’m fine with all the downsides, but the bonus needs to be increased to +20 so that bony builds can at least deal decent damage. Right now the dex mage meta is bulging sheev, which is faster than every non alvarin bony/skinny builds. This can’t be what starvault intended for the mage class. Boosting int won’t change the speed issue by itself, but it will give room for bony to adjust age to get a dex that at least competes with most foot fighters without neutering damage to an unreasonable degree.

 

[Piet]

Na it's already strong enough. Int and speed.

 

[pooternackle]

Na it's already strong enough. Int and speed.

Ive yet to encounter anyone that goes bony, because it’s objectively worse than fat mage builds.Foot fighters are faster than them due to the age investment required to get an adequate int.

 

[Piet]

Ive yet to encounter anyone that goes bony, because it’s objectively worse than fat mage builds.Foot fighters are faster than them due to the age investment required to get an adequate int.

That's because of the int curve change more than anything. There's a bulging mage build that is fast enough and has basically obese mage damage. Everyone basically is either playing that or just not as good. The old Int curve allowed for dex mages, fat mages, paladin, and hybrid. The new int curve there's only bulging because you get almost fat mage damage but can still be fast so the other builds just aren't worth the amount of damage or speed lost with very little gain.

 

[ArcaneConsular]

I prefer boney mage to fat mage. You have less health but the pain of having to move at snail pace just isn't worth playing fat mage

 

[pooternackle]

I prefer boney mage to fat mage. You have less health but the pain of having to move at snail pace just isn't worth playing fat mage

Bulging sheevs are faster than every non alvarin bony mage though, unless age is reduced so significantly that damage is at hybrid levels.

hp loss is fine, imo, it’s that the damage and/or speed isn’t high enough to compensate. +20 to int instead of 10 would fix this by allowing bonies to reduce age to a point where they actually get an above average foot speed while still having decent damage.