I keep going out of town and just getting no diffed by 5+ man zergs as my gameplay loop.

[Iloros]

0 pvp outside just groups of MAs and whatever other cringe builds just dominating me, i had 1 1v1 vs a Thursar the other day, and that was it for like the last week? Everyone cool already left, I had fun first few weeks of Sarducca but we are back at Myralnd, EXCEPT its an open world so as I predicted Alvarins and MAs just destroy you completely.

I been playing on Myralnd as much as I play on Sarducca lately bounty hunting, feels real personal

Sure I can farm and get tons of gear on Sarducca and its all great, but I am genuinely having 0 chance in pretty much all pvp scenarios, because Im not loaded like I am on Myraland so I cant overpower any outnumbered fight past 1v3 vs footies.

I get how it feels to an average solo player now in average gear average mastery average trinkets, and I never underestimated how bad it is, you literally just accept your death 0 outplay potential in 99% of the fights. Im not saying its tolerable on Myrland, but on my main I can tough it out in 1vx sometimes or they respect me and go away if I f ind a good spot, here? Open desert, shit gear, just getting demolsihed on repeat last 2-3 days man its real bad.

And if you know me I never complain about my own experience, i speak about the game state in general, but lately since all the new and cool players with cool builds and smaller groups left, man, you just get eaten alive on repeat by 5+ mans of MAs I died I think 10 times today to the same exact comp EXCEPT it's different people lmao. Like 1-2 pets 2-3 veelas and MAs shooting your ass down.

And again I have 5k raw gold, 3 rubers, bought like 30 pansar sets and bron and all that, I can go out 100 more times and die and still be fine without farming a single cuprum coin, but the issue is more of, what am I doing it for at the end of the day, just to donate my gear with 0 coutnerplay lmao? Ill mostly stay on myralnd till the patch drops ngl, Sarducca is genuinely unplayable for solos.

Such a bizzare mmo experience.

 

[Locke]

"Balance is not the priority" The Mastermind himself in his last stream. Melee has been turned into a playstyle "just for show". It's simply impossible for a footie to have fun besides RP town dueling, nor in the open world (for the obvious reasons stated above) nor in dungeons as it's always some alvarin bs involving kiting mobs and making them switch aggro (having dungeon mobs move at 600 speed seems too hard to code for the goat FarmerJoe I guess).

 

[Ibarruri]

all this remember me m1. cringe

 

[Embuscade]

@IlorosIf you've made any predictions, it's a good idea to cite the source that proves you were right; Others come out of Fabernum and engage in melee combat that knocks you off your horse—that's also a problem.

 

[Iloros]

@IlorosIf you've made any predictions, it's a good idea to cite the source that proves you were right; Others come out of Fabernum and engage in melee combat that knocks you off your horse—that's also a problem.

Robmo literally rage deleted my post last day of his work as a community manager LOL

 

[Iloros]

"Balance is not the priority" The Mastermind himself in his last stream. Melee has been turned into a playstyle "just for show". It's simply impossible for a footie to have fun besides RP town dueling, nor in the open world (for the obvious reasons stated above) nor in dungeons as it's always some alvarin bs involving kiting mobs and making them switch aggro (having dungeon mobs move at 600 speed seems too hard to code for the goat FarmerJoe I guess).

Non Alvarin footfighters are in the gutter man, mages and archers too, even though some people pretend they don't.
It's all either mounted (that can be Alvarin and is most the time) or Alvarin on foot. They gave khurites 10 raw dex it did NOTHING lol. It's literally irrelevant because Alvarins do all the other things better while still being faster. 10 raw dex btw, that's huge, did nothing because Alvarins are that far ahead.
Horrible balance they keep ignoring it, nerf Alvarins already and give us antizerg especially vs bows and magic, counter reduce is good vs footies but then mages and archers just stand and shoot you from 15 meters away 0 counterplay if theres multiple because you made purify another zerg mechanic too LOL, no comeback mechanics or nothing, just straight if its a 1v1 get shot for 25, if its 3v1 get shot for 75, and instadie in 3 rotations with no coutnerplay vs archers/mages. Imagine if they removed parrying and coutner reduce LOL, and then 3 footies come and you just go away from keyboard let them kill you coz its 3 guys hitting you and you are alone so they just full statcheck you.

 

[Embuscade]

@IlorosIf you've made any predictions, it's best to cite the source that proves you were right; others use Fabernum's PKs and engage in melee combat that knocks you off your horse—that's also a problem, and you don't need MountedArchery for that.

Robmo a littéralement supprimé mon message avec rage, le dernier jour où il a travaillé comme community manager ! MDR

Citing verified facts does not constitute evidence. Save your messages and take screenshots (including the date and file metadata) if you want to provide real evidence.

And as for anti-Zerg mechanics—well, mages’ AoE spells. At one point, he mentioned a mage staff that would boost—I’m not sure what exactly—whether it’s relics or something else. It’s by using that that they’ll eventually figure out what’s needed to create a mechanic that’s useful for that, for example.

Non Alvarin footfighters are in the gutter man, mages and archers too, even though some people pretend they don't.
It's all either mounted (that can be Alvarin and is most the time) or Alvarin on foot. They gave khurites 10 raw dex it did NOTHING lol. It's literally irrelevant because Alvarins do all the other things better while still being faster. 10 raw dex btw, that's huge, did nothing because Alvarins are that far ahead.
Horrible balance they keep ignoring it, nerf Alvarins already and give us antizerg especially vs bows and magic, counter reduce is good vs footies but then mages and archers just stand and shoot you from 15 meters away 0 counterplay if theres multiple because you made purify another zerg mechanic too LOL, no comeback mechanics or nothing, just straight if its a 1v1 get shot for 25, if its 3v1 get shot for 75, and instadie in 3 rotations with no coutnerplay vs archers/mages. Imagine if they removed parrying and coutner reduce LOL, and then 3 footies come and you just go away from keyboard let them kill you coz its 3 guys hitting you and you are alone so they just full statcheck you.

And please make some videos—whether you get wiped out or not—that’ll be good proof that the Alavarins are as strong as you say they are. Make compilations showing the 30 seconds before you start getting ganked, or the 30 seconds before you or the enemy spotted each other or got intel on each other.

If you're looking for balance in an MMO by playing solo against a zerg, I don't know—you must have played at theme parks, because there's not much that can stop a zerg in general, except for good players who know how to play within their environment, and usually it's a lot of deaths for just a few successes.

 

[Iloros]

@IlorosIf you've made any predictions, it's best to cite the source that proves you were right; others use Fabernum's PKs and engage in melee combat that knocks you off your horse—that's also a problem, and you don't need MountedArchery for that.

Citing verified facts does not constitute evidence. Save your messages and take screenshots (including the date and file metadata) if you want to provide real evidence.

And as for anti-Zerg mechanics—well, mages’ AoE spells. At one point, he mentioned a mage staff that would boost—I’m not sure what exactly—whether it’s relics or something else. It’s by using that that they’ll eventually figure out what’s needed to create a mechanic that’s useful for that, for example.

And please make some videos—whether you get wiped out or not—that’ll be good proof that the Alavarins are as strong as you say they are. Make compilations showing the 30 seconds before you start getting ganked, or the 30 seconds before you or the enemy spotted each other or got intel on each other.

If you're looking for balance in an MMO by playing solo against a zerg, I don't know—you must have played at theme parks, because there's not much that can stop a zerg in general, except for good players who know how to play within their environment, and usually it's a lot of deaths for just a few successes.

You aren't making much sense. You sound like an AI chatbot that's gathering info on the game through forums and chat but is clueless otherwise. Half of what you say is incoherent no offense.


And I don't need proof its common consensus, I dont need to convince every single person including the ones not playing.

 

[Embuscade]

I use ia one time, for find video of vulgarition science, but otherwise that just me, but ok.

 

[Iloros]

I use ia one time, for find video of vulgarition science, but otherwise that just me, but ok.

it's just off man i barely comprehend you, no offense, I always try but i dont know what to say to half of your rambles

 

[Emdash]

And if you know me I never complain about my own experience,

I mean, there are issues, of course. Seems like a lot of the shine of the update has gone. I wish they would continue to push the boundaries and lean into the fact that it is a hardcore first person sandbox.

BUT, that has little to do with you getting zerged endlessly. It sucks, but say you are a role player. How is that different than what you are describing? You say you wanna role play, you want people to respect your role play on some level, and you want to get good interaction. You want a very specific thing in a game that has two things blocking that 1. people can spec and play however they want. 2. people will often choose the path that gets them the easiest wins.

The whole thing about blaming players for not 'creating content' is wack, but it's also true that you have some level of agency to create your own bubble. Make some friends, travel around and find a good spot. I've not found many people who can't find a subset of the game that they can hang out with in MO.

I feel like beyond balance you want to play a game where you define the rules. If someone is better than you at that game, you respect them (hopefully?) but it seems like you do not grasp the nuance of the other 20 play styles.

It seems like you should have passion about the game, but I dunno if that's the right term. If you did have passion, you could turn all of this into something positive and connect things to make things better overall. Or if you personally can't, find someone who can help you.

That's all I got, after much thinking about your problems.

 

[Iloros]

I mean, there are issues, of course. Seems like a lot of the shine of the update has gone. I wish they would continue to push the boundaries and lean into the fact that it is a hardcore first person sandbox.

BUT, that has little to do with you getting zerged endlessly. It sucks, but say you are a role player. How is that different than what you are describing? You say you wanna role play, you want people to respect your role play on some level, and you want to get good interaction. You want a very specific thing in a game that has two things blocking that 1. people can spec and play however they want. 2. people will often choose the path that gets them the easiest wins.

The whole thing about blaming players for not 'creating content' is wack, but it's also true that you have some level of agency to create your own bubble. Make some friends, travel around and find a good spot. I've not found many people who can't find a subset of the game that they can hang out with in MO.

I feel like beyond balance you want to play a game where you define the rules. If someone is better than you at that game, you respect them (hopefully?) but it seems like you do not grasp the nuance of the other 20 play styles.

It seems like you should have passion about the game, but I dunno if that's the right term. If you did have passion, you could turn all of this into something positive and connect things to make things better overall. Or if you personally can't, find someone who can help you.

That's all I got, after much thinking about your problems.

When I say Im an RPer I say that as a joke because I like aesthetic part of the game and the roleplaying aspects more so than an average pvp player.

I am still looking forward to pvp mostly and yes every single fight for a solo being completely unfair is a big deal breaker for your game.

I do not blame players, I blame the game it does not have antizerg it does not have variety, it has illusion of choice.

 

[Jackdstripper]

I find it ridiculous that people complain all day about balanced gameplay, and then in the same sentence complain about losing when fighting multiple opponents.

As if they should both be able to win in all 1vs1 AND survive any 1vsX situations (and so should all other races/builds apparently).

If you are able to take on multiple oponets of similar gear/skill then the game is NOT balanced. Your build is obviously OP in that scenario. Your build is busted OP, unless the victory was purely due to a far superior skill level.

You cannot seriously cry about getting 1vsX and losing. If the game is truly balanced, you should lose that fight 100% of the time. In a 1vs1 you should lose 50% of the time if its truly balanced. Its not, and specific races (thursars) are far superior at 1vs1.

Stop playing mmos if all you want to do is play solo Iloros. Go play diablo where you alone take on millions of mobs at a time. That is no balance. Its god mode.

 

[Iloros]

I find it ridiculous that people complain all day about balanced gameplay, and then in the same sentence complain about losing when fighting multiple opponents.

As if they should both be able to win in all 1vs1 AND survive any 1vsX situations (and so should all other races/builds apparently).

If you are able to take on multiple oponets of similar gear/skill then the game is NOT balanced. Your build is obviously OP in that scenario. Your build is busted OP, unless the victory was purely due to a far superior skill level.

You cannot seriously cry about getting 1vsX and losing. If the game is truly balanced, you should lose that fight 100% of the time. In a 1vs1 you should lose 50% of the time if its truly balanced. Its not, and specific races (thursars) are far superior at 1vs1.

Stop playing mmos if all you want to do is play solo Iloros. Go play diablo where you alone take on millions of mobs at a time. That is no balance. Its god mode.

Horrendeous low IQ take.

Mmorpgs with forced pvp need viable 1vx

I am not reinventing the wheel thats what games with 1vx do, add mechanic that helps you win sometimes

I mean the literal alternative is just always dying with no gameplay if you are outnumbered??? Play a card game then 7 wins over 4 no variety of outcome.

You can 1vx people with same exact build as yours in a skilled game with antizerg. Hell you can 1vx footfighters that dont reset too often and dont corrupt/heal/use bows in this game.

You can grab a sword Thursar and 1vx 3 sword Thursars due to counter reduce and parrying which are amazing 1vx/outnumbered mechanics.

The alternative, again, is them just hitting you 3 times you hit them once, ans then just win the DPS race LOL

Balance is done to achieve fairness, getting consistently 3v1ed with no counterplay isnt fair or fun for either party and does not even feel like a video game in its current meta.

Thats peak.

What MMOs? All the MMOs od this genre have vastly better solo experiencr than MO2, I even gave examples in this post.

Mmo≠perma zvz

 

[pooternackle]

The game is in the low 300s split across two continents. Basically MO1 pop but worse because of the continent size. It's done. Iloros, you did your best - I commend you - but it's over. They didn't listen.

 

[Iloros]

The game is in the low 300s split across two continents. Basically MO1 pop but worse because of the continent size. It's done. Iloros, you did your best - I commend you - but it's over. They didn't listen.

I didn't hear no bell

 

[Jackdstripper]

Horrendeous low IQ take.

Mmorpgs with forced pvp need viable 1vx

I am not reinventing the wheel thats what games with 1vx do, add mechanic that helps you win sometimes

I mean the literal alternative is just always dying with no gameplay if you are outnumbered??? Play a card game then 7 wins over 4 no variety of outcome.

You can 1vx people with same exact build as yours in a skilled game with antizerg. Hell you can 1vx footfighters that dont reset too often and dont corrupt/heal/use bows in this game.

You can grab a sword Thursar and 1vx 3 sword Thursars due to counter reduce and parrying which are amazing 1vx/outnumbered mechanics.

The alternative, again, is them just hitting you 3 times you hit them once, ans then just win the DPS race LOL

Balance is done to achieve fairness, getting consistently 3v1ed with no counterplay isnt fair or fun for either party and does not even feel like a video game in its current meta.

Thats peak.

What MMOs? All the MMOs od this genre have vastly better solo experiencr than MO2, I even gave examples in this post.

Mmo≠perma zvz

When the first sentence has to be a personal insult, it is clear you have already lost the argument.
Grow up Iloros.

 

[Iloros]

When the first sentence has to be a personal insult, it is clear you have already lost the argument.
Grow up Iloros.

Not true at all. You just can't make a comeback so you try to find the best route to dip from the convo.

Your entire comment was insulting.

 

[Jaygrae]

I tried to help as well. My concerns and commentary on steam has ALWAYS been the same. Glaring issues as stated now for THE PAST YEAR. /salute Iloros.

1. MA stupidity with mario cart controls on wolves. (used to be taur dogs but you fixed that, only took ya just over a year. great job!)

2. Bow is now a trinket infested face tanking weapon. congrats, real fun to play against.

3. Toxai, Tindrem, under utilized, empty cities that should have been turned into heavily guarded areas for the PVE noobs to play house and enjoy their little pve world. At least they could have kept paying subs and kept the population/community alive.

4. The Alvarin BS paid you guys great for constant 8.99 rerolls. Dont even get me started about when you added the 2nd character slot.

5. Murder pays. Playing a good "blue" does not. So why even bother.

6. Houses all look the same, no color scheme, just boredom.

7. Building a house ANYWHERE next to your enemies, trolling them over and over, knowing it COSTS them more time/$$$ to get rid of you than its even worth. What amazing gameplay.

8. RMT gate-keeping on dungeons that went on knowingly for over 2.5 years. Nothing done.

9. The massive amount of CHEATING and allowing them to just buy new accounts and start over and over, insanity.

Game is over. I wanted this game to thrive but all my friends quit, i put in near 4k hours with some great memories. But when the lead of the game pushes some kind of broken toxic gameplay, you cant be surprised when the left overs begin eating themselves.

Wrain

 

[Iloros]

I tried to help as well. My concerns and commentary on steam has ALWAYS been the same. Glaring issues as stated now for THE PAST YEAR. /salute Iloros.

1. MA stupidity with mario cart controls on wolves. (used to be taur dogs but you fixed that, only took ya just over a year. great job!)

2. Bow is now a trinket infested face tanking weapon. congrats, real fun to play against.

3. Toxai, Tindrem, under utilized, empty cities that should have been turned into heavily guarded areas for the PVE noobs to play house and enjoy their little pve world. At least they could have kept paying subs and kept the population/community alive.

4. The Alvarin BS paid you guys great for constant 8.99 rerolls. Dont even get me started about when you added the 2nd character slot.

5. Murder pays. Playing a good "blue" does not. So why even bother.

6. Houses all look the same, no color scheme, just boredom.

7. Building a house ANYWHERE next to your enemies, trolling them over and over, knowing it COSTS them more time/$$$ to get rid of you than its even worth. What amazing gameplay.

8. RMT gate-keeping on dungeons that went on knowingly for over 2.5 years. Nothing done.

9. The massive amount of CHEATING and allowing them to just buy new accounts and start over and over, insanity.

Game is over. I wanted this game to thrive but all my friends quit, i put in near 4k hours with some great memories. But when the lead of the game pushes some kind of broken toxic gameplay, you cant be surprised when the left overs begin eating themselves.

Wrain

It's like they doing it on purpose.

I personally as always just have to put Alvarin/zerg issue as number 1. and 2. then its 10 places emoty in my opinion though. Game has many problems but just nerf Alvarins and add antizerg and game goes from negative retention not worth playing/promoting to something actually worth playing.

You cant even get a good clip in this meta to post an engaging video that might get people to play, you just genuinely get ne g diffed by a guy from range over 2-3 minutes as a non Alvarin LOL