They *should be* diverse, I mean. Funny how those words are not too dissimilar in meaning. The deep metaphor for SV, close but not quite, in a bad way, haha.
Human Clade rebalance suggestion
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They *should be* diverse, I mean. Funny how those words are not too dissimilar in meaning. The deep metaphor for SV, close but not quite, in a bad way, haha.
Absolutly true. Builds are needed to min max in this game to be really good. Humans cant min max which means they are always going to be lacking.
Humans which are one of the viable hybrids are outclassed by veela hybrids because veelas can min max some parts of their builds.
I like #2 That is a brilliant idea, However I think #3 would be so fucking broken. Just on the fact that they can hold a heal and cast it right when they get hit. To then dis engage and keep their defense ready while also casting with one hand. It would be cool, But I think it would be stupid broken. Also seems pointless because nobody can cast while moving, and I think it would be a waist of time to code that in, Unless they were given the ability to cast while moving, Which would completely break the game.
you are extremely clueless if youre seriously suggesting veela over sheevra for a hybrid.
Sir! What a banal appeal to personality (argumentum ad hominem)! Is it not quite obvious that apart from differences in skin color, veela are also superior to sheevra bodily, mentally, and metaphysically...?
Humans are much better than Veela at hybrid. The only reason you would ever take Veela is the speed boost. Sounds like you just don't know how to build human as they have the strongest build in the game. Not to mention better damage bonus than Ogmir second only to Thursar, the most mana regen, second best speed with that melee damage bonus, and a free self purify. Humans are OP if you know how to build them but take more thought than copy paste of meta builds from other races.
You dont even play tho. The best Human hybrid Mr.Bandit recently made a sheeva hybrid and came to the same conclusion that alvarian makes a better hybrid. Hes most likely switching to it.
How many human hybrids are there to mention being good at PvP. The Human hybrid will just hold you back.
Idc if 1 person thinks Alverin is better. Human is better in everything but mobility with it by far.
elf has some of the most op gifts imo lol.
due to the way raw dex works now, there is not enough difference between the speed of the nonhuman clades and humans, even lean. It lets you spec hard into mounted tho. Could use more mounted gifts lol sry bud but mounteds are a thing. I'd like to see a + armor weight while mounted gift or like a - penalty for weapon on mount. That's a place to give them something, shoot boost their horse speed by a raw percentage like veela got haha. See how that works out.
due to the way raw dex works now, there is not enough difference between the speed of the nonhuman clades and humans, even lean. It lets you spec hard into mounted tho. Could use more mounted gifts lol sry bud but mounteds are a thing. I'd like to see a + armor weight while mounted gift or like a - penalty for weapon on mount. That's a place to give them something, shoot boost their horse speed by a raw percentage like veela got haha. See how that works out.
While I agree that humans need a buff these suggests are way too far. The main Clade issue with humans is they have a ton of "Dead" Clades. These are clades that after a certain period of time have zero use period and some clades are just too weak to justify ever picking. Other races have this as well for example being told if you can find a rare material.
My personal suggestion is to give all humans +5 points and +5max dex and give the dex clade a +1% movement as the main issue with human is they are not much faster than other races and have less stamina than everyone, which the most important resource for both dealing melee damage and staying alive. The human Warcry also needs a serious buff or redesign. After those two glaring issues are fixed I think minor changes can made to make the bad or weak clades more appealing/interesting.
My personal suggestion is to give all humans +5 points and +5max dex and give the dex clade a +1% movement as the main issue with human is they are not much faster than other races and have less stamina than everyone, which the most important resource for both dealing melee damage and staying alive. The human Warcry also needs a serious buff or redesign. After those two glaring issues are fixed I think minor changes can made to make the bad or weak clades more appealing/interesting.
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I thought of the 1% movement speed on the dex gift as well, talking about it with a friend. +5 attribute pool id agree with for Sido, Kall and Khur, the amount that Sard and Tind already have is solid currently. Imo giving +4 con to Tindremene, Sarducaan and Sidoian would help out since their stamina is very low and have subpar hp.
Khurite used to have a niche for the 103 stout dex in mo1, but they're barely 1% faster than a kallard/thursar while both oghmir are also 0.8% slower than most human ancestries and have a gigantic stamina bar.
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Hello. I got Opportunistic clade thinking that reputation of completing task between Fab and Tindrem would increase from 2 to 4.. But I still get 2 from completing even with active Opportunistic clade on. What's going on?
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Human needs more non combat things since their stats are low by default. I still think they should double up the + and +max gifts, either make them double click or combine to add a lot more flavor gifts. Same with big boned and striker. FOR INSTANCE. Excuse my paintfail. Painful paintfail.
the work in pvp, they are worse, but the bonuses you get for crafting are pretty damn good when you think about it, but they aren't good ENOUGH, imo. And if you combine the attribute + and max gifts (really w/ every clade, as well as true double gifts) you can add in more gifts, tons of areas in the game are untouched by gifts and yet they are having redundant gifts. So wack.
Edit: that +15 by ruff was meant to be up by engi.
the work in pvp, they are worse, but the bonuses you get for crafting are pretty damn good when you think about it, but they aren't good ENOUGH, imo. And if you combine the attribute + and max gifts (really w/ every clade, as well as true double gifts) you can add in more gifts, tons of areas in the game are untouched by gifts and yet they are having redundant gifts. So wack.
Edit: that +15 by ruff was meant to be up by engi.
