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You guys need to buff horse armor. I'm getting hit for 50 through steel horse armor with a single arrow.
I could definitely see 50s through the best horse armor if the person has a good longbow and full zoology lores.
Or you could be making crap up and they were actually hitting you with weak spot shots to your horses head as MAs.
Or you could be making crap up and they were actually hitting you with weak spot shots to your horses head as MAs.
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For one weak spots on horses don't work. So full 5 head with that one. I'm assuming it was a long bow given the damage. Ask BEAR, they are all running Oghmir, so I would assume that they are all using 122 str long bows. Furthermore, the steel horse armor is taking 30+ damage from a short bow, so yeah.
39 pierce armor vs a dcrep shortbow was doing 50+ on heads and high 40s on bodies.
"but ma sux lol, just use outbursts"
"but ma sux lol, just use outbursts"
slapping down a ton of assumptions there without any real evidence. Do you even know that its a short bow and not an asym?
A PK killed my horse with 3 arrows, he was in full plate with a recurve bow.
FULL PLATE AND BOW, what is at least weird.
I agree with Shmerrick, this horse armor/hp system need a fix.
FULL PLATE AND BOW, what is at least weird.
I agree with Shmerrick, this horse armor/hp system need a fix.
I like where Damage to horses is at right now. It's not like you can't just run away at any time anyway. Mobility AND staying power is just silly, imo.
Yes. The mounts we currently have are way too squishy.
But I would rather have more raw HP on them than more defense. Because otherwise it will empower MM the most of all other mounted styles.
Also, I would like to see horse bandaging while mounted and while turning/moving. A flat 20hp per bandage (with max Veterinary) plus a maximum bonus of 30hp based on dexterity. Weapon sheathed and 2-3 seconds animation.
But I would rather have more raw HP on them than more defense. Because otherwise it will empower MM the most of all other mounted styles.
Also, I would like to see horse bandaging while mounted and while turning/moving. A flat 20hp per bandage (with max Veterinary) plus a maximum bonus of 30hp based on dexterity. Weapon sheathed and 2-3 seconds animation.
I hate horses but its pretty dumb that steel is so lack luster on horse. They need to increase the cost of armor for horses and then increase its defense against pierce. Also add other mechanics that help players counter horses. Games about to release and no earthquake dismounts yet.
Mounted need more staying power but a way to prevent them from fleeing if the mess up too hard.
Schmerrik is a very good MA and knows what he is talking about with the mounted stuff. I havent seen a difference really between WS damage and the normal damage on horse, so I will also say that you cant WS horses. Ive shot plenty of horses. Asyms against steel horse armor does 35-45, long bow 45-55.
The system needs a rework.
Mounted need more staying power but a way to prevent them from fleeing if the mess up too hard.
Schmerrik is a very good MA and knows what he is talking about with the mounted stuff. I havent seen a difference really between WS damage and the normal damage on horse, so I will also say that you cant WS horses. Ive shot plenty of horses. Asyms against steel horse armor does 35-45, long bow 45-55.
The system needs a rework.
Wait, what? A steel horse armor already takes 1.1k steel. And you want to increase it?
A set for one player cost 1.8k steel. Horse should take more steel to make them armor if you want to buff their protections. We were promised by Henrik that horse armor would be 3 times the cost of player armor to balance it out a bit. 3.3k steel isnt even a lot and mounted with higher protection would not die often.
3.3k steel is about as much as I consumed in the whole beta l for weapons. Converted into money it is about as much worth as 1.5 small house blueprints. And that much just for a single horse armor. Ridiculous. Please make it more gear-based. That's exactly what the game needs.
Then only the large zerks will wear expensive horse armor, since every small scale or solo player will say that it's not worth that much money when you die anyways to a larger zerk.
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Sigh. I don't really know how else to say this. DC short bow does 8~10 on a fighter in steel armor. That same bow does 30~40 damage on a horse in steel armor. The long bow damage to a horse in steel armor is 50~55 damage. That's 6 body hit arrows on a massive target and it's dead. That's 6 people shooting one arrow and hitting or 3 people shooting 2 arrows and your horse is dead. This is insane. I was entering render range against a foot group and my horse was already at 30% before I could even do any damage. I don't care if they buff the resource cost like TZone suggested, but as it currently stands horse armor is really under performing.
As a ex Foot Archer main, 112 longbow does 12-18 damage on a steel fighter and oghmir decreases that even more. On solarium its 22-28 minus 3 damage if they are ogmir with the clade gift. You can shoot horses with the same longbow on steel for about 50 damage.
I can make like a stack, A real stack which is 10k steel in like 2 days casually. Mats in this game are so easy and quick to get.
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You think I should lose my 1000+ steel / backing material and my level 125 in less than 5 seconds before I can even play. Delusional.