Ether scouting feedback for the future magic schools rebalancing patch

KebekLorde

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In regards to spirit scouting that was removing some time ago. Could you please bring it back on your future patch where you go over all magic schools to balance them out and allow all spiritists with Transcedental awarness to see players again. One way you could go around it to make it balanced and not hurt natural forming of fights is adding new magic spell to spiritism that could be a buff that makes any character or creature invisible to the spiritists in the Ether. For example, the spell could work like this:

Name: Ether reinforcement
Mana: 5mana points
Range: 1000.00 units
Speed: Instant
Cast time: 1 second
Skill range: 20-30 spiritism
Required reagents: 1 spirit
Description: Concentrate spiritual energy to reinforce the barrier around yourself that blocks connection between Ether and material plane, causing you to be invisible to any spirits and may try to pear through.

Effect of the spell: Applies a 30 minute buff to any living player or a creature this is cast upon causing them to be invisible to spiritists attempting to see into the material plane from the Ether.

I personally think this would be a perfect way to remedy the issues of groups anywhere in the world beiing scouted by other groups to avoid fights if the groups looks too strong without sacraficing the absolutely amazing aspect of having spiritis more often iteract with the living world insted of just farming money via spirit farming in ether. I miss the ability to see players and spawn on them to fight them with just a spirit box. It was really good and unique experince and I'd like to see it back.
 

Jackdstripper

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Its fine the way it is now. You cant see people but you can see horses, so technically you can follow a mounted group around. There is no need for more. Nobody likes spirit scouting.
 

Jasa

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Just make it so when you cast awareness you have glowing red eyes that both living and dead can see + Make it so players are just outlines not showing armor. Only reason it was removed was people looking at the armor taking a guess it was Steel+ and dipping from that fight.

The only reason to spirit scout atm is to find people in a dungeon via killed mobs. Its exclusively used by Ganker guilds since there is no counterplay.
 
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Jackdstripper

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Just make it so when you cast awareness you have glowing red eyes that both living and dead can see + Make it so players are just outlines not showing armor. Only reason it was removed was people looking at the armor taking a guess it was Steel+ and dipping from that fight.

The only reason to spirit scout atm is to find people in a dungeon via killed mobs. Its exclusively used by Ganker guilds since there is no counterplay.
Its wasn't ONLY used to see peoples armour, but also numbers, and composition but specifically exact positioning. It was basically in-game stream sniping and took all surprise, guesswork, ambush or spontaneity out of any fight. Both parties had ghost scouts and nobody would engage while waiting for all conditions to be perfect, which almost never happens. Completely moronic mechanic.

As it is right now, it can still be used to gather some information (like horses and scouting dead NPCs) but you cant get exact position, or numbers or gear. You can get hints but not cctv cameras. Its quite balanced.
 
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Jasa

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Its wasn't ONLY used to see peoples armour, but also numbers, and composition but specifically exact positioning. It was basically in-game stream sniping and took all surprise, guesswork, ambush or spontaneity out of any fight. Both parties had ghost scouts and nobody would engage while waiting for all conditions to be perfect, which almost never happens. Completely moronic mechanic.

As it is right now, it can still be used to gather some information (like horses and scouting dead NPCs) but you cant get exact position, or numbers or gear. You can get hints but not cctv cameras. Its quite balanced.
Sadly I used it to keep track of people in the meat world over open areas, not dungeons. These changes are good assuming you are following dead carcs with knowledge of NPC spawns, if your team has pets you are still giving away your position. The system is not perfect and unless Pets are removed from it then it's a horrible inconsistent.

The purpose for which I used it, is no longer valid,the reason to have it now is simply to gank people in Dungeons/scout if its being farmed or print gold / farm flux.
 

Vkdsw

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players can cast awarners on themselves to see spiritists, turn pvp button `on` cast mental projectile on spiritist from normal world and banish him, just few projectails and spiritist will be banished.

but spiritist in spirit world with ~10k of gold skill points - just a blind gold farmer! and can see only horses and pets. stupidest nerf ever!

counter play to this scouting its a having spiritist in team too.
 
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