Henrik still hates his own game.

Gorukha

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Imagine screwing up every opportunity with MO1 and then making a sequal and making the same exact mistakes or even worse.
I was only a low skill casual in MO1 but imagine the dejavu feeling I had seeing a low population game and its devs trying to revive it by adding a new desert continent. This does not compute. The idea should be to create reasons to increase engagement in the content you already have instead of doing clickbait level short term solutions.
You will get a few more players try new content but the reasons the population was small in the first place still exist.
I am happy I never invested any money and time into this sequal but I feel bad for telling people about it and their wasted time. 😏
 

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I'll agree with you that the team has made the exact same mistakes and followed the exact same dev cycle as MO1. I won't agree with you that Sarducca is a bad idea. NA Sarducca is the only thing that will bring me and my friends back to the game.

I don't know you and I don't know your motivations but this seem to be another anti Sarducca post from an EU player. I don't care about the desires and wishes of the EU population at all. They have had 15+ years of a prestine experience. If they want to stay in Myrland, great. If they want to play in Sarducca, great. Let me and my friends have the experience that EU has had.
 

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I'll agree with you that the team has made the exact same mistakes and followed the exact same dev cycle as MO1. I won't agree with you that Sarducca is a bad idea. NA Sarducca is the only thing that will bring me and my friends back to the game.

I don't know you and I don't know your motivations but this seem to be another anti Sarducca post from an EU player. I don't care about the desires and wishes of the EU population at all. They have had 15+ years of a prestine experience. If they want to stay in Myrland, great. If they want to play in Sarducca, great. Let me and my friends have the experience that EU has had.
But you just wont stay as in its current form game is bleeding players and will always fo back to 300 average after hype maybe it takes a month maybe 3 but the game just isnt sustainable for majority potential players.

Solo play is horrible in almost every way including variety because your only option as solo or small scale is to play Alvarin footie or mage lmao. Nerf them already.

New players get locked out of an area, a starter area by 1 vet with 5g kit because. An alvarin mage or footie vet of average skill can go to sewers and lock them down infinitely vs all new players ans naturally there will be enough murderers to make everything locked down at lets say 2k average pop. We need blue or yellow zones genuinely.


Next is just outnumbered fightinf even when you get good is doomed by magws and archers and again Alvarins just resetting even on each other which means you cant stick on a targer most the time ans there is at least one guy either archer or mage pouring all their free dps into you from range. Adrenaline was supposed to be 1vx/outnumbered mechanic and completely failed and instead of buffing that (make it scale on how many people are hitting you consisrently like albion/for honor) they buff counter reduced from 60 to 80 to make sure no multi hit ability is ever worth using and it does not fix mages and archers at all just makes footies worse at xv1 and they already can be 1vxed. 3 footies vs 1 good footie is a solid fight. 1 footie 1 mage 1 archer instakill the guy adress archery and magic its so backwards.
 

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I avoided posting on this thread because I’m tired of saying the same things but

No sv did not just repeat the mistakes of mo1. They made a whole new bunch of mistakes in the form of listening to the footfighter only crowd. This is why there is no variety and nothing is farmable without unnatural parry skills.

Which brings me to my 2nd point
Nerfing alvarin or mages isn’t going to magically make the game more fun and playable. This is just doubling down on the nerf everything mentality that permeates all of mo2. That said alvarin clade seems overtuned. Also racials were determined to be trash game design 20 years ago. It’s the mark of an absolute novice game designer to not only include them but conflate them with classes.
 
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Iloros

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I'll agree with you that the team has made the exact same mistakes and followed the exact same dev cycle as MO1. I won't agree with you that Sarducca is a bad idea. NA Sarducca is the only thing that will bring me and my friends back to the game.

I don't know you and I don't know your motivations but this seem to be another anti Sarducca post from an EU player. I don't care about the desires and wishes of the EU population at all. They have had 15+ years of a prestine experience. If they want to stay in Myrland, great. If they want to play in Sarducca, great. Let me and my friends have the experience that EU has had

I avoided posting on this thread because I’m tired of saying the same things but

No sv did not just repeat the mistakes of mo1. They made a whole new bunch of mistakes in the form of listening to the footfighter only crowd. This is why there is no variety and nothing is farmable without unnatural parry skills.

Which brings me to my 2nd point
Nerfing alvarin or mages isn’t going to magically make the game more fun and playable. This is just doubling down on the nerf everything mentality that permeates all of mo2. That said alvarin clade seems overtuned. Also racials were determined to be trash game design 20 years ago. It’s the mark of an absolute novice game designer to not only include them but conflate them with classes.
It will make pvp way more enjoyable, period.
 

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I avoided posting on this thread because I’m tired of saying the same things but

No sv did not just repeat the mistakes of mo1. They made a whole new bunch of mistakes in the form of listening to the footfighter only crowd. This is why there is no variety and nothing is farmable without unnatural parry skills.

Which brings me to my 2nd point
Nerfing alvarin or mages isn’t going to magically make the game more fun and playable. This is just doubling down on the nerf everything mentality that permeates all of mo2. That said alvarin clade seems overtuned. Also racials were determined to be trash game design 20 years ago. It’s the mark of an absolute novice game designer to not only include them but conflate them with classes.


yeah, I mean, I have spent a lot of my life thinking things are conspiracies or that people are purposefully punishing us, but it almost makes you wonder if people are really that clueless.

Like, what if Henrik really was a nub? I know, it's funny. I make the jokes. I think of him being like woah woah woahhhh when they were doing the elementalism stream. I assume he was just acting. Or when he plays with other people he's just like... haha. Dude is like a 10 year old kid the way he approaches MO, which is AWESOME in some ways. Like, if you can appeal to that inner 10 year old in people in marketing, you will get a lot of people... but when it comes to actually the nuts and bolts of the game, approaching it with knee jerk bandaids... also like a 10 year old would... is not great.

I will forever be salted that it's not ME or that I'm not ONE of the dudes, but I really think SV should hire someone with some understanding of sandbox game balance that might listen A LITTLE to what the community is saying. What the community is saying often isn't wrong, but their solutions are generally wack.

Fuck it, tho.

SV IF YOU DON'T PULL SOMETHING OUT OF YOUR ASS I'M DUN. I tried (again, and again.)
 
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Iloros

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yeah, I mean, I have spent a lot of my life thinking things are conspiracies or that people are purposefully punishing us, but it almost makes you wonder if people are really that clueless.

Like, what if Henrik really was a nub? I know, it's funny. I make the jokes. I think of him being like woah woah woahhhh when they were doing the elementalism stream. I assume he was just acting. Or when he plays with other people he's just like... haha. Dude is like a 10 year old kid the way he approaches MO, which is AWESOME in some ways. Like, if you can appeal to that inner 10 year old in people in marketing, you will get a lot of people... but when it comes to actually the nuts and bolts of the game, approaching it with knee jerk bandaids... also like a 10 year old would... is not great.

I will forever be salted that it's not ME or that I'm not ONE of the dudes, but I really think SV should hire someone with some understanding of sandbox game balance that might listen A LITTLE to what the community is saying. What the community is saying often isn't wrong, but their solutions are generally wack.

Fuck it, tho.

SV IF YOU DON'T PULL SOMETHING OUT OF YOUR ASS I'M DUN. I tried (again, and again.)
yeah they have to do balance way more often Henriks "balance will never be perfect because people disagree on what we should do" mentality is so toxic and damaging. You can add an endless perfect world you wont make a tank main that wants to play heavy weapons roll an alvarin to be viable. He will just quit. Thats what most of them did.
 

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First of all, NA Sarducca won't even be out this year!
When it finally does come out 7% of you will have died from natural causes in real life, another 20% of you will have moved on to a different game, another 20% will have gotten married and had kids and another 20% will say this game looks dated. WHY? because it takes Indie companies' way too long to get anything done and it dies on the vine.
 

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people are trolling themselves and SV by banking on sarducca. Too much pressure. But they are trying to fix the game, which is good. I just wish they would LISTEN MORE. Def some good changes that shoulda happened, the pop is rising, so they need to find a way to make shit churn again. Add in siege even if I'll prol lose all my shit O well.

Speaking of toxic, it's so toxic to use TC to keep people subbed. People need breaks, too. It keeps pop fresh.
 

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people are trolling themselves and SV by banking on sarducca. Too much pressure. But they are trying to fix the game, which is good. I just wish they would LISTEN MORE. Def some good changes that shoulda happened, the pop is rising, so they need to find a way to make shit churn again. Add in siege even if I'll prol lose all my shit O well.

Speaking of toxic, it's so toxic to use TC to keep people subbed. People need breaks, too. It keeps pop fresh.
TC is like the last thing they need to put more effort in lmao so mucch wasted time effort and money to make the shittiest system thats so zerg friendly AND DOES NOT WORK because of server/fps quit ddoing zvz contenz