Nerf Alvarins already, quit delaying it.

[Iloros]

They ask for feedback on ptr about what clade is the strongest competitively, you really think 80% Alvarin playerbase will vote for their own class to get nerfed? They all vote game is balanced.
Democratic balancing is nuts. Go watch any video, it's majority alvarin, talk to any vet without implying nerfs so they don't get defensive, Alvarin is the best at 95% of situations that actually come up. They are the most popular at all builds. The only clade other than Alvarins with some identity left is Oghmir in zvz frontlines, but Alvarins are as important in zvz and more popular (again watch videos don't go by your gut instict)

Nerf already, it's embarassing.

 

[ElPerro]

You do know that nobody from SV reads this forums right?

Its just MO1 boomers here

 

[MK Player]

They should reduce the Alvarin's strength by 25% to be fair... their damage is very close to that of other races... running absurdly fast, they are by far the most popular race in the game, 80% of warriors are Alvarin.

 

[Iloros]

They ask for feedback on ptr about what clade is the strongest competitively, you really think 80% Alvarin playerbase will vote for their own class to get nerfed? They all vote game is balanced.
Democratic balancing is nuts. Go watch any video, it's majority alvarin, talk to any vet without implying nerfs so they don't get defensive, Alvarin is the best at 95% of situations that actually come up. They are the most popular at all builds. The only clade other than Alvarins with some identity left is Oghmir in zvz frontlines, but Alvarins are as important in zvz and more popular (again watch videos don't go by your gut instict)


You are asking zergs and alvarins if we should add more zerg content and if alvarins are fine basically, super biased responeses, which means you are losing on massive amount of potential players who don't play because other playstyles don't work, and by asking the people left playing, you keep avoiding nerfing the playstyles that are making others unabel to play.

We need an antizerg mechanic versus magic and archery, Alvarins need a nerf already, it's embarassing.

You do know that nobody from SV reads this forums right?

Its just MO1 boomers here

This took 2 minutes to write their official game forums has Alvarins being op being spammed not just by me either. Thats something.

 

[Iloros]

They should reduce the Alvarin's strength by 25% to be fair... their damage is very close to that of other races... running absurdly fast, they are by far the most popular race in the game, 80% of warriors are Alvarin.

80% of mages too..

 

[MK Player]

You still see many humans and Oghimir mages... however, in dungeons you only see Alvarin because the others aren't as viable for dungeons, while in the open world the variety is balanced. Now, Alvarin fighters are 80% in all scenarios... I haven't seen a human warrior in months.

 

[Iloros]

You still see many humans and Oghimir mages... however, in dungeons you only see Alvarin because the others aren't as viable for dungeons, while in the open world the variety is balanced. Now, Alvarin fighters are 80% in all scenarios... I haven't seen a human warrior in months.

If by "many" you mean less than 30% combined vs 70% sheevras then sure. Sheevra mages are way more popular than Oghmir and Human mages combined not even close. Idk what you guys are comparing the pick rates to to throw around the words like "many" do they exist? Yes. Are there many? Not even close. Sheevras dominate pick rates.

I'll go as far to say there is more Thursar and Oghmir footies relative to Alvarins versus fatmages relative to sheevras. I mean literally no fatmage is ever seen until you go 10+ deep the build is useless without tons of peelers.

 

[pooternackle]

They ask for feedback on ptr about what clade is the strongest competitively, you really think 80% Alvarin playerbase will vote for their own class to get nerfed? They all vote game is balanced.
Democratic balancing is nuts. Go watch any video, it's majority alvarin, talk to any vet without implying nerfs so they don't get defensive, Alvarin is the best at 95% of situations that actually come up. They are the most popular at all builds. The only clade other than Alvarins with some identity left is Oghmir in zvz frontlines, but Alvarins are as important in zvz and more popular (again watch videos don't go by your gut instict)

Nerf already, it's embarassing.

They have the data on pick rates. They know they are overplayed and OP. They use the feedback to determine whether they should take action on it or if taking action would upset too many people. Nerf has been needed for years tbh, but I've given up hope it's gonna come - the longer you let them be OP, the more people reroll alvarin and the greater resistance there is to nerfs.

 

[Iloros]

They have the data on pick rates. They know they are overplayed and OP. They use the feedback to determine whether they should take action on it or if taking action would upset too many people. Nerf has been needed for years tbh, but I've given up hope it's gonna come - the longer you let them be OP, the more people reroll alvarin and the greater resistance there is to nerfs.

I doubt they have data, at best subbed accounts because ain't NO WAY you have shit like 70% of uptime on Alvarins and you don't nerf them. Nobody does the "would it upset people" when pickrate is this high, balance team would have to know nothing of balance if they think upsetting meta abusers leads to bad outcomes, not even over long time btw, I know like 10 mfs who would st art playing, or start playing 3x more than they currently do if you just nerfed Alvarins. And this leads to a snowball effect. Henrik said MANY times he will show us the pickrates he never has, and whenever he is asked, he always makes shit up, last time he said Humans were most popular which I doubt was ever true for example, he seems to just make shit up on spot. That's my opinion, not a claim really, I don't have any great arguments for that case but still something to think about.

 

[pooternackle]

I doubt they have data, at best subbed accounts because ain't NO WAY you have shit like 70% of uptime on Alvarins and you don't nerf them. Nobody does the "would it upset people" when pickrate is this high, balance team would have to know nothing of balance if they think upsetting meta abusers leads to bad outcomes, not even over long time btw, I know like 10 mfs who would st art playing, or start playing 3x more than they currently do if you just nerfed Alvarins. And this leads to a snowball effect. Henrik said MANY times he will show us the pickrates he never has, and whenever he is asked, he always makes shit up, last time he said Humans were most popular which I doubt was ever true for example, he seems to just make shit up on spot. That's my opinion, not a claim really, I don't have any great arguments for that case but still something to think about.

It all starts to make sense when you realize the game is designed around RMT. You nerf alvarin, you upset both the alvarin try hards as well as the alvarin RMT accounts who will lose gold-farming efficiency. If you upset the latter too much, they move to other games where they can make gold (and cash) more easily. If too many RMTers quit, the try hard alvarin players quit too because of the game's obscene gold sinks.

The fact that 98-99% of RMT accounts are alvarin is all the proof you need that there is a problem with the clade, but it's also all the evidence you need that the nerfs will never come.

 

[Locke]

Have all mobs besides GY zombies, scoundrels, outlaws and bandits run at 600 speed. Alvarin is now balanced.

 

[Iloros]

It all starts to make sense when you realize the game is designed around RMT. You nerf alvarin, you upset both the alvarin try hards as well as the alvarin RMT accounts who will lose gold-farming efficiency. If you upset the latter too much, they move to other games where they can make gold (and cash) more easily. If too many RMTers quit, the try hard alvarin players quit too because of the game's obscene gold sinks.

The fact that 98-99% of RMT accounts are alvarin is all the proof you need that there is a problem with the clade, but it's also all the evidence you need that the nerfs will never come.

Plausible but no evidence really they ban RMTers consistently. Most rmt accounts being Alvarin is good proof they are Op though. I think it's come to a point where vast majority of the community is tired of the meta and the numbers just keep going down. Sarducaa hype bumled us to 550 now we already at 500 10 days into the month even though they dropped a patch, we are gonna be at all time low before Sarducaa if they dont nerf them the current meta makes almost every player not even wanna play. Even as an Alvarin meta is miserable because everyone is either also an Alvarin or designed to hunt Alvarins (terror bird mounteds etc.) its horrible theres 0 fun and variety and balance its a huge bottleneck game will never be remotely sucesfull with issues like this. Also they giga nerfed RMT with trinket changes so again game being super pro rmt I doubt it.

 

[Iloros]

Have all mobs besides GY zombies, scoundrels, outlaws and bandits run at 600 speed. Alvarin is now balanced.

Not even bro. Its not just mobs. They need direct nerfs quit trying to avoid it.

 

[boogis]

sounds like jalosy. if u think alvarin is op then play alvarin. wat is your problem bothering devs for your ambitions? or were u born other then alvarin? is it in your passport? there is no rasim here. your can be whoever you want to be. its like asking God nurf black people for being best in basketball or running. stop it

 

[Iloros]

sounds like jalosy. if u think alvarin is op then play alvarin. wat is your problem bothering devs for your ambitions? or were u born other then alvarin? is it in your passport? there is no rasim here. your can be whoever you want to be. its like asking God nurf black people for being best in basketball or running. stop it

I'll take this as sarcasm but remind people Alvarins are op and pretty much nobody disagrees.

 

[boogis]

yeah lets nirf all millioners. there are so many poor people in the world so lets nierf millioners they r to OP

 

[Iloros]

yeah lets nirf all millioners. there are so many poor people in the world so lets nierf millioners they r to OP

Hilarious bro