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Good luck trying to get him to see any sort of logic bro. He want's full heaviest most op armor mages because he plays one. Won't listen to any reason and doesn't care if it hurts the game.

You leave gooseman alone! XD

See there is some logic. At least you use your brain. If people can do something like that they will especially because if you dive a mage in Ogh they can essentially ignore you. I personally know many people who planned on doing it if they left the mana regen as it was.

See here. Still not a single reason and you are trying to deflect the impacts of a revert. If fat mages can wear heavy armor because they can just rest in it then there will be fat mages in Ogh. Simple as that. You're not thinking of the impacts of what your reverting and adding back in a bug...

Ahh I get the not liking the spirit farming but oddly enough some people love it. There actually is a mage light spell in a different school though. I personally understand though I hate spirit farming but that was some people's main form of farming in the game in MO1 and they loved it.... not...

Lol okay bro. I am making logical well presented reasons. You haven't given one on why it would be a good idea to have an ogh wearing fat mage. On top of that you're defending your build that is built around a bug while I am defending not getting my own class that I play buffed. What reasoning...

You guys aren't picturing the full extent of what that revert would mean. Fat mages in Ogh.

You didn't give any actual reasons you dislike it, didn't give any suggestions for improvement, and from what I can tell you are new and don't understand the importance of mages and how to play them. Many people love mages and the magic in this game. If you like Assassin said want to 1vX that...

Many people want the feature that are bad at the game. My problem with reverting it and why I am against it is what I have been saying. It takes away the different classes and specialties and reasons to use different armor. I am a mage. Reverting this change would revert it so my old heavy armor...

If it's so easy and such a good tactic why did all the paladin's disappear after the change instead of just doing that? Because it will get you killed. In all actuality how it functions is mage has good mana, hybrid has medium mana with meh regen, and paladin has basically just their one bar.

Have fun being naked and have someone rush you?

This was a bug. Design wise this undercut the whole idea that armor weight mattered a lot to mages.

If you're getting hit as a mage you're doing it wrong but if you are you also don't rely on armor.

The issue is people were sitting mid combat for mana, that was actually the meta.

For a mage, ya.

Hybrids aren't light they are medium and there's many solid medium armors for them. That's the point they give up regen for melee and the better they are at melee the worse regen they get. It's a give an take system which encourages diversity in builds and there was many hybrids, mages, and...

Which in a lot of situations they can't or it takes more time. More or less use of magic emphasized because of challenge to regen from armor. This was the reason no medium armor was used, there just was no reason, you have to rest anyways as medium may as well go heavy and have the survival...

No. Just no.

You have heavy armor weight for a mage. Go down to 2 weight if you want better regen. The idea is to make it so there's incentive for mages to wear lighter armor. The bug that was bypassing mana regen armor effects was fixed to make it so there's more classes basically. There's a reason for...

That's not the case. You can't use it on people who are moving much just sitting and blocking and if you use it in a team fight somehow still then you will be hitting your friends.